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Old 06-13-2006, 08:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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How about this little 5.2 diesel?

Isuzu has a 5.2 in line 4 cylinder diesel that makes 190 hp and 387 pounds of torque. Nice engine for a F-150/ or a 1500 GMC. In line 4 ought to fit in anything and as a 4 the weight can't be much over 500-600 pounds which is a far cry from the 6.0 at 1,100 plus. Only certified in the cab over trucks but what the heck it's possible. The Isuzu 4 in lines and 6 in lines are very reliable engines.


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Re: How about this little 5.2 diesel?

isuzu can turn out some dam fine engines.if it were not for being a short stroke aluminum headed engine,i would give the duramax a try.i have a friend who is a certified cummins[and others] mechanic in the equipment field.he works on lots of cummins and isuzu powered equipment,he claims for longevity and reliability the isuzu stuff is hard to beat.but when they do break,call your banker.
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Isuzu has a 5.2 in line 4 cylinder diesel that makes 190 hp and 387 pounds of torque. Nice engine for a F-150/ or a 1500 GMC. In line 4 ought to fit in anything and as a 4 the weight can't be much over 500-600 pounds which is a far cry from the 6.0 at 1,100 plus. Only certified in the cab over trucks but what the heck it's possible. The Isuzu 4 in lines and 6 in lines are very reliable engines.
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Old 06-13-2006, 11:44 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: How about this little 5.2 diesel?

The 5.2L is a cut down version of Isuzu's 7.8L 6 cylinder. It is a very heavy duty engine for it's size, as the 7.8L is comparable to a Cummins 8.3 and the IH DT-466. As the post states above, they are not as light as you would think they might be.
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Re: How about this little 5.2 diesel?

Several years ago I approached a salesman with the Isuzu/Ford dealer just SW of downtown Dallas. I was considering an Isuzu with the 7.8L engine for a tow vehicle....I had a 2000 7.3 CC PSD at the time. The salesman told me I would be disappointed in the power of the Isuzu engine, particuarly on hills. He said Isuzu de-rated their engines in exchange for very long life and reliability. He said Isuzu trucks rode rough. He also told me Isuzu repairs and parts were Caterpillar expensive. He advised me to keep my PSD, which I did.

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Re: How about this little 5.2 diesel?

My experience with Izusu diesels has been all favorable. Cant comment on the cost to fix one however I never had one break!

Regarding using the 5.4 L diesel to power an F150 etc P/U, as others point out the engine is hardly "little". Weight would be an issue. Also the 5.4 is TALL. Shoe horning one into a current production P/U engine bay would be problematic, unless perhaps the engine can be tipped ala the venerable Chrysler slant 6.

But another problem is many potential buyers long accustomed to the silky smooth gas V8s in previous half tons - would likely be put off by the heavy throb/drone of a large displacement 4 cylinder diesel running under the hood. (Think of Detroit series 50 in a city bus...). The NVH problem could likely be solved, though not without adding $$$ to the sticker price.

Interesting idea however!
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I like the 3 year UNLIMITED warranty. Unlimited? Some delivery people might rack up 200K in three years and still be on warranty.
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The only problem with seeing an Isuzu diesel in an F-150, is that GM and Isuzu are tied at the hip, (if GM doesn't own them outright). If I were GM, looking for a 1/2 PU diesel engine, I think I'd just cut two cylinders off the duramax, and wham, have a 4.4L turbo V6 for my half-ton.

Our family had an 84' Chevette, with a 4-cyl. Isuzu diesel that racked up 300k+ miles in it's life, and got tossed around between family members. The poor thing had absolutely no power, but got 50mpg or better, and never had a wrench to the motor... I wish we still had that thing around now....
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Re: How about this little 5.2 diesel?

Anyone wishing to figure the approx weight of the 5.2 Isuzu diesel, here are a few figures. First you need to know the weight of the GMPT 6.0 alum head V8. These figures will help you at least the extra weight of the diesel. A GM W/N series // Isuzu NPR model EB-104 (GMPT 6.0 gas w/4L80E, automatic, A/C, pwr, windows/locks, rear tank) has a wet weight (except fuel) of 3251 lbs front and 1810 rear for total of 5061........A model NB-154 with 5.2 diesel, Aisin automatic, eqipped as above gas model has a weight of 3484 front and 1887 rear for total of 5503. so it is 442 pounds heavier than the 6.0 The diesel has 2 group 31 batteries versus 1 for the gas.
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The only problem with seeing an Isuzu diesel in an F-150, is that GM and Isuzu are tied at the hip, (if GM doesn't own them outright)...

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4wheel&offroad that i just got yesterday had a blurb that GM sold it's percentage of Isuzu off.
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The only problem with seeing an Isuzu diesel in an F-150, is that GM and Isuzu are tied at the hip, (if GM doesn't own them outright)...

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4wheel&offroad that i just got yesterday had a blurb that GM sold it's percentage of Isuzu off.

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Yes, but G.M. and Isuzu are still going to cooperate on different projects, like diesel engines. Most of Isuzu's commercial trucks sold in the U.S. are assembled by G.M. in Flint, MI..
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Look at Isuzu's domestic market vehicles, namely their SUV's and trucks. Hombre = S10, Ascender = TrailBlazer, N-Series trucks = Kodiak Trucks, just to name a few. The Duramax is another prime example. Not saying the blurb in the magazine is wrong, but why would GM sell off a valuable asset???
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... why would GM sell off a valuable asset???

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I can't say why, but they do. General Motors works in mysterious ways.

A while back, they sold off their Electro-Motive Diesel division, builders of Diesel-electric railroad locomotives, just a couple of years before they decided to start developing on-highway hybrid-electric powertrains. The experience embodied by EMD employees would be quite valuable right about now.
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They spun off Packard Electric Division too...I would have told you they were crazy for doing that because they have such great products so widely used...but now Delphi is in the toilet.

Maybe Isuzu insisted that they be released...not having GM's pensions and other liabilities drag them down. It does seem like a strange time for a US automaker to be divesting itself of a presumably profitable Japanese company.

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They spun off Packard Electric Division too...I would have told you they were crazy for doing that because they have such great products so widely used...but now Delphi is in the toilet.

Maybe Isuzu insisted that they be released...not having GM's pensions and other liabilities drag them down. It does seem like a strange time for a US automaker to be divesting itself of a presumably profitable Japanese company.

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Funny thing is that many if not most of the spin-offs have done much better when spun off. Look at what Roger Penske did with Detroit Diesel.

Then look at what Ross Perot did with EDS.

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