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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old 04-03-2008, 02:37 AM Thread Starter
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Toyota with 3.9 turbo cummins

I am thinking about finding a Toyota with a bad motor in it and droping in a 3.9 turbo cummins, i would want to run a 5 speed but dont know what would be best? Nv4500 is to big and a zf5 to, nv3500?? any ideas?? I would just want some 33in tires, just want a good daily driver, I will never buy any thing that runs on gas or that has a auto, any one have any ideas for me?? may be i gave you one!!

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Hmm, let me preface by saying that this is just my $0.04 (inflation). I haven't even done an engine swap like you're talking about, but have researched and talked to people a fair amount.

If you want a good daily driver with good mileage and reliability, you can get a front cut of a 4 cylinder Toyota from Japan and swap it in fairly easily. A guy I know who did this with two Toyotas is really pleased with the performance and reliability. It wouldn't produce near the power of the cummins, but its a great daily driver. Stock instrument cluster and all that will work with it. Lots more info is available on the net.

I'm just thinking off the top of my head, it sounds like what you're trying to do may be a challenge with space, weight, and torque. Unless you get a 1/2 ton Toyota pickup, which they didn't really make until recently (and even that is debatable especially here on a Ford truck forum), you'll probably have to beef up the front end, do some fabbing to make that tall motor fit, get a decent transmission behind it, and not stress the frame with all the torque that little monster will produce. Especially if you want to tow more than a few thousand pounds.

I'd love to build either a Toyota with the Toyota diesel motor, or put a 4 cylinder cummins into an OBS F-150 with a NV-4500 behind it. Either way, the purpose would be to get great mileage and good power in a 4X4 daily driver. Real towing would be saved for my real truck.

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I guess the the 4bt would be a little big.. I did drop a 460 in a ranger and it twisted the frame.. just was thinking that, but the other motor sounds like a good plan, what are they called? It would almost just bolt right in would it or would it not? Run the stock trans to?

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I think the Toyota diesel is a 2.2 liter turbo, called the 2.2LT or something like that. Yes, if the truck you're putting it in is a mid nineties 4 cylinder it bolts right in, and I'm pretty sure you can use the same transmission. Either way, the front cut comes with the transmission as well. You do have to switch from right hand drive to left, but I don't think its that big of a deal. The guy I know who did it has a 5 speed in both and loves them, certainly a one of a kind deal. There's lots of info on the net, I've been on here too long to do a search, gotta get out into this great day we have going on!

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Are any of you familiar with swapping the 3.0 L V6 with a diesel in the Yota's? A sweet setup would be a T100 with a small displacement diesel...a bit more capable than a Taco.
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I forgot the name of the company but there is a company here in the U.S. that does these swaps. They use Toyota diesels which are available everywhere but the U.S. and they will do the swap or sell you the motor and/or parts for you to do it yourself. Do some searching on Google and you should find it.

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One of the diesel mags Diesel Power or Diesel Builder had an article on a 4BT swap into a full size Bronco. I have also seen a GMC 3500 dually long bed with a 4BT in it. Guy claims 30 MPG from it. If I were to do a Toyo with a diesel I believe I would use a Toyo engine and trans for ease of installation.

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One of the diesel mags Diesel Power or Diesel Builder had an article on a 4BT swap into a full size Bronco. I have also seen a GMC 3500 dually long bed with a 4BT in it. Guy claims 30 MPG from it. If I were to do a Toyo with a diesel I believe I would use a Toyo engine and trans for ease of installation.

Now that's one issue I would have loved to read.... the 4BT swaps.

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I did a bit of research on the NV3500 about 12-13 yrs ago. Dodge used them in RAM 1500's....they were undersized for the 318 V-8's built at the time, They're only rated for about 200#/ft or torque. The little Cummins would tear them apart. They were made to compete with the T-5 B-W transmissions.

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One of the diesel mags Diesel Power or Diesel Builder had an article on a 4BT swap into a full size Bronco.....
Unless there was a second article the swap was into an Early Bronco (66-77) and I know of several people that have done it.

To clarify Broncos are broken down into 3 categories. There are Early Broncos (called EB for short) that were produced from 1966 to 1977, the Full Size Bronco (also known as FSB) was a two year run 78-79 and was the largest Bronco due to being built on the pickup chassis and finally there was the OJ Bronco (or OJB) which went back to a dedicated frame and ran from 1980 to 96 (with a couple of sheetmetal changes) when production ceased.

The BroncoII was NOT a Bronco as it was based on the Ranger mini truck.

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