General DieselDiscussion about diesels in general. All brands are welcome, please refrain from brand wars. Discussions about types of diesel fuel also go here.
I think you have to find the fine line between being insulting, which gets your post deleted, and merely "crusty" before they shut the thing down. Hopefully we are getting close.
By the way, I think he is right, you should read his signature. It explains a lot.
Jap 6 cylinder? The Duramax V8 is an Izuzu by the way.
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This is a 6L. psd forum who gives a rats a-- about cummins and durajaps..Are ya'll homeless or what..?
j.schall
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No, Were just wishing either Ford would have stuck with the DEPENDABLE 7.3 or stuck a Cummins in it like they do for Brazilians like i posted in the link above!!
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95 F350 CC PSD 5SPD Gear Vendors O/D 4x4
92 Explorer Eddie Bauer
05 Expedition 4x4 5.4 3 valve.
Former trucks:
2003 F250 CC 4x4 6.0 HEADACHE! Traded before it blew!
89 F250 2wd 7.3 5spd with 256K when sold
94 F250 4X4 IDI Turbo 7.3 5 spd 160K when sold
95 F250 S/C 4x4 PSD 5 spd with 146K when sold
00 F250 C/C 4X4 PSD 6 Spd with 126K when sold (180K now)
In the initial advertising literature Ford said the 6.0L had gone through more than 2,000,000 miles of testing.
International has been building engines since the early 1900's.
Here's some of their more famous designs:
Farmall Cub Tractor
Farmall 140 Tractor
345 V-8 gas
392 V-8 gas
DT-466
DT-408
--just to name a few
International doesn't make junk. Ford doesn't make junk either. What happens is you have 2 very large companies trying to put together ONE truck and it gets entangled between Engineering (the good guys), Accounting (the bad guys), Marketing (the guys who want more power), and Final Assembly (the ones who just don't care either way).
Now my personal opinion is that if Ford went to a 6 cyl. diesel, International and Ford would need to work on a revised and updated DT-408 sized engine keeping the PSD name for the F-250/350/450/550/650, and leave the Cat and that 'other' brand of diesel for the 650 and 750 models.
If I'm not mistaken, International already builds the chassis for the F-650 and F-750's anyway. All Ford does is stick a body and electronics on it if it has a Power Stroke, unless they install a Cat or that 'other' brand of diesel in.
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Traded in: 1995 Ford F-250 XLT Super Cab Longbed 4x4, 460, auto, 3.55's., K&N filter, glasspack duals. Miss everything about this truck but the gas mileage....
Some days you're the dog.....Some days you're the hydrant.
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Were just wishing either Ford would have stuck with the DEPENDABLE 7.3 or stuck a Cummins in it like they do for Brazilians like i posted in the link above!!
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Well, since Dodge has the Cummins tied up in the states for several more years, that one is out. As for the "DEPENDABLE 7.3", Navistar got themselves in a bind with that engine by lying to the Feds about meeting emmissions requirements. Thus leading to a consent decree from the Feds. Under the consent decree, Navistar had to meet the more stringent EPA requirements well ahead of everyone else. Apparently, the 7.3 could not be made to meet those requirements. So the bottom line is, the Federal government made Navistar, (and thus Ford), go away from the 7.3. Ford had no choice in the matter if they chose to continue to sell trucks equipped with the Power Stroke diesel.
__________________ 2003 Toreador Red/Arizona Beige CC, DRW, Lariat, FX4, 6.0 PSD, Torqshift, born early Feb. 03; AIC; Silverline turbo-back dual exhaust; 155cc injectors from Full Force Diesel (Casserly); SCT with tuning by Tony Wildman (Total Diesel Performance) & Innovative Diesel; ARP studs; Dfuser regulated return; AFE PG7; Fumoto valve; B&W hitch, Di-Pricol gauges; DIESELSITE Coolant filter; Timbrens; Rancho RSXs; Michelin XPS Traction's; a whole bunch of "bling"; Connex 4300hp; Pioneer DEH6100BT; JL Audio 275w amp driving a 12" sub; JL Audio 50wx4 amp driving the Alpine door and rear seat speakers. 380.3hp/786.7ft-lbs (on my tow tune!)
That's some interesting information. Where did you read/hear that? I would like to learn some more about the circumstances surrounding the demise of the 7.3...
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That's some interesting information. Where did you read/hear that? I would like to learn some more about the circumstances surrounding the demise of the 7.3...
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Emissions....Emissions....Emissions....
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<font color="blue">2005 National 2nd Place Winner in Agricultural Mechanics in Repairs and Maintenance for The National FFA Organization.</font>
Traded in: 1995 Ford F-250 XLT Super Cab Longbed 4x4, 460, auto, 3.55's., K&N filter, glasspack duals. Miss everything about this truck but the gas mileage....
Some days you're the dog.....Some days you're the hydrant.
Can't we all just get along.... To Powerstroker... saying "never a 6 in my truck"... Only a v-8... 6s are for "japtraps"... Well, a very good Diesel mechanic told me, "there is no good V-8 Diesels made"... He is a mechanic... Why would a Diesel mechanic say that.. As far as 6 cylanders... Most of the "over the road", long haul commercial trucks" use "STRAIGHT INLINE 6 ENGINES"... And, The best engine Ford EVERY built... the 300 is a "straight in line 6"... No, it won't win a race or burn the rubber off the tires... But they get very good fuel mileage and go FOREVER....... As a matter of fact, they were so good, FORD don't make them anymore.... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]
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2002 PSD,4X4,XLT LARIET, CREW CAB Short Bed,373 axles, dark shadow grey, black,28 foot fifth wheel, powerpull hitch...Stock For Now..Click on "db" to see photos of 02.. Thanks
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"powerstroker" are you refering to me? Japtraps? I said japcraps. And ive known alot of wrenchers and theirs some that think that their dodge 318 has more power than a new semi. Not very bright. And if you believe this guy you better sell your V8 since theirs no good v8's made???? Everyone on this site is shaking their head, or at least most. The ford 300 had no power, if i wanted millage i would get a kia, diesels are for hauling, would a 300 straight make it up a mountain with any load, give me a he!! no. If you dont like the engine make the switch and dont tell us how it went.
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2002 F-250 S/C Auto, 4X4, longbed, Dual Turboback Exhaust from Brighton Radiator, TS 6 position chip(Stock-Fuel7) Tymar Intake.Acetoned emblems. Boost pyro tranny C2 autometer guages with pillar mount(Follow the light)40000Miles
2004.5 Polaris 600 Sportsman. DONT FALL IN THE TRAP DEMOCRATS ARE FULL OF CRAP some call me redneck, some call me trash, some call me a true American that'll kick your... God bless the U.S.
There were some very good V-8 diesels made. The Detroit Diesel 71 series and 92 series. They were discontinued because they would no longer meet emissions. Now they have the 60 series inline 6. But those old Detroits would go forever....you just had to watch those oil leaks - and you think the 6.0's leaked oil??
__________________ 2008 F350 XLT CC DRW 4x4, 6.4, Auto, 4.10, Manual Transfer case, Supplemental Heat, Wide Track Front Axle, Sirius. 1996 Newmar Dutchstar, 8.3L Cummins 6CTA, MD3060 Allison
** SOLD with 80,300 miles ** 2003.25 (Feb. 14, 2003 build) F350 Crew Cab 4x4 XLT, 6.0
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That's some interesting information. Where did you read/hear that? I would like to learn some more about the circumstances surrounding the demise of the 7.3...
2010
the 7.3 will be back with two turbos
and meet emissions
trust me i do enviromental research now
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2006 Lariat "TOW BOSS"
Mods So far: Stopped counting
2002 F350 Larait Crew Cab Dually , (sold 65k Miles)
1992 F250 HD 4x4 Super cab 7.3 IDI W/banks(Sold 118k miles)
1988 F150 Short bed 4x4 (sold 45k miles)
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2003 Toreador Red/Arizona Beige CC, DRW, Lariat, FX4, 6.0 PSD, Torqshift, born early Feb. 03; AIC; Silverline turbo-back dual exhaust; 155cc injectors from Full Force Diesel (Casserly); SCT with tuning by Tony Wildman (Total Diesel Performance) & Innovative Diesel; ARP studs; Dfuser regulated return; AFE PG7; Fumoto valve; B&W hitch, Di-Pricol gauges; DIESELSITE Coolant filter; Timbrens; Rancho RSXs; Michelin XPS Traction's; a whole bunch of "bling"; Connex 4300hp; Pioneer DEH6100BT; JL Audio 275w amp driving a 12" sub; JL Audio 50wx4 amp driving the Alpine door and rear seat speakers. 380.3hp/786.7ft-lbs (on my tow tune!)
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