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I made a living selling some cars while in college. I knew about cars and what people wanted.
I love it when people try to know more than I do. I re-state my request once, and then politely let them know they just lost a sale and to go get someone else to help me.
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1996 F-250 extended cab long box five speed. Home made Tymar, 203 Stat, 60 gal in bed fuel cell, 315/75's, no muffler, ebpv welded open 3" to 3" DP, Babies. 290K, still chugging, and still smoking when cold.
UPDATED 1/1/09 Replace so far. 1 LUK flywheel+clutch, 2 thermostats, 2 set of brakes, 1 set of calipers, 5 CPS, 3 sets of tires, 2 Transfer pumps, 1 Injector modual, 1 Computer, 2 Alt, 2 sets of batteries, 1 Water pump, 6 Belts, 1 PS hose, 2 Sets ball joints, 2 set u-joints, 2 carrier bearing, 2 Speed sensors, 1 oil pres sender, 1 temp sender, 4 sets of e-break cables, 1 front fuel tank, 2 rear fuel tanks, 2 set of glow plugs, 7 Glow plug relays, Oil galley o-rings, Turbo pedistal o-rings, EBPV o-rings, 3 sets of Injector O-rings, 1 Vac-pump, 1 new carpet, 1 total paint job.Total $$$ in repairs v/s miles driven = 4.6 cents per mile. Add fuel to that it jumps to 16.5 cents per mile over the life of the truck.
Ive met some very knowledgable salesman but like great mechanics they are few and far between.
Ive heard rediculous things from both camps. Ford owner told me his psd was a twin turbod cat. Dodge owner tried for a half hour to convince me the auto in his 01 was a 5 speed. Ford owner told me cummins was a 2 stroke so he would never own one. Just to name a few. Car salesman really do come up with some off the wall ones tho. Ive heard some whoppers. A carsalemans worst enemy is an educated consumer. An uneducated consumer is a dealerships bread and butter. Sticker plus baby.
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1984 E350 Quadravan, 6.9 IDI, 4x4, E4OD, ext. van : recent acquisition 1984 mitsubishi mighty max 4x4; a work in progress to run on homebrew if all goes well
Stopped at local Ford dealer the other day to get some coolant additive. While waiting for the parts counter line to shorten a bit I wondered outside to peek inside an '08 F-450. I wasn't outside 30 seconds when this big goon with a big goofy grin and a name tag waddles up to me. He starts asking all the standard BS questions about me, blah blah blah. (I am concentrated on how clean the undercarriage is [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] ) Then he starts pointing out the different "little things" on the truck. First the vents on the fenders...."These are a new addition....cold air intakes"...I didn't say anything....Points inside..."This year the truck feature a new 6 speed automatic"...I kept quiet....We get to the back and he points to the exhaust tip..."With this new powerstroke engine Ford added this dual tip with the cutouts to help with the noise and smell of the diesel motor"....I said thank you and walked away chuckling....
Wow Psdfreak, you could have had some real Fun with that Yahoo if you wanted too LOL...
__________________ 2005 F250 XLT wedgewood blue 4x4 C/C SWB,6.0L PSD, Auto.(Member of 05 STC Failure Club ) 2006 Expedition Eddie Bauer,5.4L (Wife's) NRA Life Member. TSRA Life member.
Great post! I hate it when some idiot starts lecturing me about things that they obviously know nothing about. After about 1 minute, I loose my "mr. niceguy" personna and get blunt with them or I just walk away and ask someone else the original question and leave the first guy hanging. I have better things to do with my time than listen to their inane drivel.
As an aside, the next time I have to buy a truck of any size (bigger than a half ton), I'm going to have a chat with the folks at Kenworth. I suspect their sales folks know their trucks pretty well. In fact, Sun_s (a member here) sells them, and he DOES know his stuff. As far as cost goes, I've got the price of a decent new Semi Tractor into my Excursion anyway, and at 117,000 miles, it's broken down again. So far, that makes 2.5 years out of the last 7.
Just my $.02 worth.
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clam the powerstroke grinch
2000 Excursion LTD 4x4
Slightly tweaked HPCR 5.9 Cummins
Allison 1000 5 speed auto
i cant believe i forgot this, same day. the reason i was there to start with was a salesman called me from there because he saw my ad in autotrader, wanted to know if i was selling for an upgrade or what. after he told me where he was from i told him i was already in touch with someone there about a 450, he said o well kelly is here and there is a 450, i said id come down and he would let him know. when i was leaving the guy that called stopped me and asked about my ad, (400+hp at wheels, 4"straight pipe have stock cat) he said so now which motor did you pick? it has the caterpillar diesel in it, i said no its straight piped, i have the cat-alytic converter incase someone wants it installed when they buy it. he said o that cat diesel would have been something. i said there isnt one.
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BS Math 2009
BS Biology 2009
PhD Math - 3 areas of study: Applied Mathematics & Mathematical Physics, Differential Equations, Algebra 2013
My favorite toy: Core i7 920@3.8ghz in Azza Hurrican 2000, liquid cooled cpu, Asus P6x58D-Premium motherboard on a shelf replaced with MSI Big Bang X Power x58, EVGA GTX 295s quad sli on a shelf replaced with 3 EVGA GTX 580 Hydro Copper 2 FTW tri SLI, 128GB SATA III Crucial Real SSD, Western Digital 500GB 7200rpm HD for storage, 12GB of ram@1600Mhz, 1100w power supply
2005 F350 cc, sb, Lariat, chip, 4" turbo back straight pipe 6" tip, outlook monitor, two tone blue and silver funtional ram air hood, 35x12.50x18 BFG MT KM2, Rancho RS9000XL with My Ride, ARB front and rear lockers.
1941 Willys Americar Coupe
2007 Mazdaspeed 6
2009 Jeep Wrangler Sahara
2012 Ford Focus SEL Sterling Grey
then im jealous, you dont have to deal with the crap the rest of us do [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img]
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BS Math 2009
BS Biology 2009
PhD Math - 3 areas of study: Applied Mathematics & Mathematical Physics, Differential Equations, Algebra 2013
My favorite toy: Core i7 920@3.8ghz in Azza Hurrican 2000, liquid cooled cpu, Asus P6x58D-Premium motherboard on a shelf replaced with MSI Big Bang X Power x58, EVGA GTX 295s quad sli on a shelf replaced with 3 EVGA GTX 580 Hydro Copper 2 FTW tri SLI, 128GB SATA III Crucial Real SSD, Western Digital 500GB 7200rpm HD for storage, 12GB of ram@1600Mhz, 1100w power supply
2005 F350 cc, sb, Lariat, chip, 4" turbo back straight pipe 6" tip, outlook monitor, two tone blue and silver funtional ram air hood, 35x12.50x18 BFG MT KM2, Rancho RS9000XL with My Ride, ARB front and rear lockers.
1941 Willys Americar Coupe
2007 Mazdaspeed 6
2009 Jeep Wrangler Sahara
2012 Ford Focus SEL Sterling Grey
PhD Math - 3 areas of study: Applied Mathematics & Mathematical Physics, Differential Equations, Algebra 2013
My favorite toy: Core i7 920@3.8ghz in Azza Hurrican 2000, liquid cooled cpu, Asus P6x58D-Premium motherboard on a shelf replaced with MSI Big Bang X Power x58, EVGA GTX 295s quad sli on a shelf replaced with 3 EVGA GTX 580 Hydro Copper 2 FTW tri SLI, 128GB SATA III Crucial Real SSD, Western Digital 500GB 7200rpm HD for storage, 12GB of ram@1600Mhz, 1100w power supply
2005 F350 cc, sb, Lariat, chip, 4" turbo back straight pipe 6" tip, outlook monitor, two tone blue and silver funtional ram air hood, 35x12.50x18 BFG MT KM2, Rancho RS9000XL with My Ride, ARB front and rear lockers.
1941 Willys Americar Coupe
2007 Mazdaspeed 6
2009 Jeep Wrangler Sahara
2012 Ford Focus SEL Sterling Grey
I either talk to the fleet salesman or they can talk to the wall.
If I wanted to buy a focus i would look for some grease ball with a name tag and a bad haircut. But for trucks I talk to the Fleet salesman. as a bonus they usually cut much better pricing that the floor sales vulture would even think about taking to the manager.
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00'F350 psd CC Drw 2wd Bright Amber Western Hauler, exhaust brake transfer flow 50 gal tank tool, 30K Cody goose neck hitch, hawk pads, cryo'ed rotors, stainless lines, 380,000 miles
02' Psd Excursion Limited ultimate Estate Green 7.3L Auto 2x4 hellwig swaybars and rancho 9000's. 381,000 miles.
1993 F-superduty (F-450) 7.3L Gutless non turbo 2x4 Auto, Tire eating S.O.B. 12,750lbs 80,000miles lincoln Vantage 500 Duetz bolted in the back.
1994 7.3 I.D.I.T. factory turbo, auto 2x4 DRW with lots of upgrades, 11 transmissions under 100K factory warranty. 280,000 miles Currently Cavitated and parked.
96 F-800 24'flat 5.9L cummins, 4spd allison juice brakes.
89 F-800 6.6L 5+2 27,00lbs light weight with National 556A crane behind the cab.
2006 T800 KW 550 C-15 18spd 22K front, 52K rears murray ramps, 195" W.B. CA spec heavy haul SOLD
2006 Murray 16 tire professional lowbed SOLD
1996 fetherlite 4 horse GN, Walton 18' 14K tag tilt equipment trailer.
This reminds me of when I was Excursion shopping. One dealer said, "Why do you want an Excursion, a pick up will work just fine". In other words, "We don't have any but we've got plenty of pick ups". He didn't seemed fazed that I pulled up in a truck.
Another dealer once tried selling me a used Super Duty with $1K in body damage for $2K over NADA value.
Another dealer tried selling me a new at the time Super Duty and after hearing lie after lie realized he had been drinking.
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99(4/99)F350 PSD 4X4 crew cab long bed dually lariat isspro triple pod air bags with compressor
99(6/99)F250 PSD 4X4 X-cab short bed xlt 5in str8 piped air bags autometer ultra light triple pod bought 8/15/01 w/40k miles first diesel
00(12/99)Excursion PSD 4X4 limited triple pod
00 BMW 328CI 2dr silver fully loaded
65 Mustang 289 V8 4brl
69 GTO 400 4spd
04 and 09 PJ 15k dump trailer 04 H&H 9K tilt bed 98 Haulmark 7x14 enclosed
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