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Ok so I bought an 83 S10 pickup last week and tonight I was getting the title ready to transfer into my name making sure everything was filled out correct. Well I noticed on the title I have it says its a gas engine and the truck I have is a diesel. So I did some more digging and figured out I have two vin #'s on this truck! The vin by the windshield is for the title I have and the vin in the door jamb is the correct vin for the truck itself which is actually an 84. What do I do now? The guy I bought it from doesn't know how this happened and I don't want to throw a red flag with the state patrol because I dont want to get the truck taken away from me! Please help thanks
The VIN visible from the windshield is generally regarded as the "official" vin. Since that number matches the number on the title you should be OK. Don't mention the number on the door jamb.
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Take a real close look at the dash VIN #, I know a person that used to make some from those plastic label makers and spray can them flat black and they did look good? Take a look at other S-10's near your year and look at how the numbers are attached to cowl, it should be 2 rivets that we can't get, not the everyday poprivet And as far as a diesel S-10 ? I think thats a clerical mistake and I don't think there was one ever made by Chevy.
I hope that was some help to you
Yes the other vin from the door jamb decodes as a 2.2 diesel but the vin on the dash which is riveted on and looks real decodes as a 2.8 gas engine. Somebody must have switched out the dash or something. I dont get it
All the vehicles I ever registered were in CA, OR or AZ.
All 3 states (for me, anyway) looked at the door jam data plate to verify title (vehicle identification) numbers.
Of course, I have not registered in CA since 1986...in OR since 2006 and I have registered my last 3 vehicles in OR by having them inspected in AZ.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MrJimi</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Take a real close look at the dash VIN #, I know a person that used to make some from those plastic label makers and spray can them flat black and they did look good? Take a look at other S-10's near your year and look at how the numbers are attached to cowl, it should be 2 rivets that we can't get, not the everyday poprivet And as far as a diesel S-10 ? I think thats a clerical mistake and I don't think there was one ever made by Chevy.
I hope that was some help to you </div></div>
i had a 1985 s10 diesel, 2.2 l isuzu, 5 speed..they re out there ! !
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GruntTorque</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yes the other vin from the door jamb decodes as a 2.2 diesel but the vin on the dash which is riveted on and looks real decodes as a 2.8 gas engine. Somebody must have switched out the dash or something. I dont get it </div></div>
The VIN is usually attached to a metal flange under the windshield that is part of the body. It does not go with the dash. That would make that tag almost worthless since you can change a dash in an hour or so.
What is the VIN on the engine? I think the VIN on the dash much have been tampered with.
CA's emission laws on diesels are not strict, no smogging at all.
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Just a word of caution....
The VIN is often located in several locations on a vehicle including somewhere on the frame and a derivative of the VIN is sometimes on some major components. A red flag will go up immediately if the VIN on the dash and the VIN on the door do not match. The state you register the vehicle in needs to have the correct number on record. They will almost always affix a special little tag to the door frame indicating that they have been made aware of the conflicting number and that they have located the proper VIN and it is on record. Without that info, theres a good chance that your vehicle may be impounded if you ever get pulled over.
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I'm a certified Collision Technician, the truck hasn't been wrecked. Besides the vin tag in the door jamb is on the ext cab side panel not the door. The only thing I can think of that happened is maybe the original title holder died and no one could find the title so they thought it would be easier to just put a worn out truck title on it. I can't give the truck back I get 3.5 times better mileage with it than my 08(37.5mpg)! [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mr_Roboto</div><div class="ubbcode-body">In that case I would "carefully remove" the non matching vin sticker. You don't want to be caught with two different numbers on the truck. </div></div>
Don't get caught "carefully removing" ANY identification numbers from the vehicle. You will definatley get yourself in trouble with the law.
I would take it in to the State Police with all your paperwork, showing purchase, who from, etc., and explain. the police are the only ones that can help you now, if you want to keep the truck and avoid having it impounded down the road.
As NP said, there are several VIN locations on the truck. The police will verify which is the proper, remove the improper one and issue you the paperwork you need. One of the VIN's you have will match another location on the vehicle.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: GruntTorque</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The only thing I can think of that happened is maybe the original title holder died and no one could find the title so they thought it would be easier to just put a worn out truck title on it. </div></div>
That's the only thing you can think of? Or the only thing you want to think of? I can easily come up with one more - the truck was once stolen, a different VIN put on it, and sold.
The only vehicles I've ever registered have been in Michigan. The only thing that was EVER inspected was if I had given them enough money. As long as I had a title that looked like it was signed by the previous owner, and enough $$$$, it was processed and I had a new title in my name. Nobody has EVER inspected a vehicle I was registering.
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