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Old 08-23-2007, 01:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Browser consistantly crashes

I have a Dell Inspiron laptop running XP on a wireless DSL connection. I have AVG, ZA, and Cybersitter running in the background. I use Firefox as my default browser. Evertime I go to Cars.com the browser crashes and I get an error message saying that FF has encountered a problem and must shut down. I can fill in my criteria, but when the page brings up the results is when it crashes. It does this with IE also! It has happened on a few other websites, but nothing I remember as being this consistant. My son is running an older Dell desktop and he has no problems. Any clues as to what to look for?
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Re: Browser consistantly crashes

well id say laptop wireless dsl thats about all most high traffic high info websites will do that

what is your processor speed?
how much ram?

xp and vista tend to give windows programs top slot in ram
running that id recomend a 2.3ghz dual core or 4.3 single core min.
and id say 1.5 gb ram to be safe
xp recomends 1 gb ram minimum to run safely

anything else just pm me and ill get back to you


basicly your wireless will take up ram dsl takes up ram and windows takes up a lot of ram so you may have just exhusted your ram your sons computer is a desktop probaly more ram and larger processor than your laptop
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My old 6 yr old Sony laptop, with 512M of Ram, a slow processor, running XPpro, and using IE7 with a wireless DSL connection, never, ever crashes. It's slow, but it never crashes.

I would look at some logs and see if you could find out why.
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Re: Browser consistantly crashes

Sailbad...
Had the identical issue and my computer wizard neighbour traced it to a bad file in Windows XP. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img] He removed the file and entered a replacement and things were much improved.
To actually completely solve the issue, my neighbour 'scrubbed' my entire hard drive and re-entered my programs. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] All is well!!
Windows XP has some inherent instability, but if you follow the clues from your browser as it shuts down, you will see the faulty file. Google that file and you will find a replacement file until you can get your computer ' scrubbed'.
Hopefully this is somewhat hepful?? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]
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Evertime I go to Cars.com the browser crashes and I get an error message saying that FF has encountered a problem and must shut down. I can fill in my criteria, but when the page brings up the results is when it crashes. It does this with IE also!

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could also be a browser plugin like Flash or Java that's crashing. Plugins are separate programs which the browser loads into its memory space when needed. if the plugin crashes, then the browser falls over too. I know to this day, the Quicktime plugin crashes Firefox on Windows pretty frequently.

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Windows XP has some inherent instability,

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Drivel.
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Windows XP has some inherent instability,

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Drivel.

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If it was drivel then my setting would never change on me, and my network icon would show a connection right now.

Windows is like a helicopter. Inherently unstable and really makes a mess when it crashes.

Yes, I use windows right now. But my Linux machine is coming along nicely.
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If it was drivel then my setting would never change on me,

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what "setting?"

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and my network icon would show a connection right now.

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faulty hardware and/or buggy drivers are not Windows' fault.

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Windows is like a helicopter. Inherently unstable and really makes a mess when it crashes.

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Funny how I never have these problems. Here's a hint- buggy drivers or bad hardware will take down almost any general-purpose operating system.

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. But my Linux machine is coming along nicely.

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yes, and I'm sure you'll have plenty of excuses for when things crash on Linux.
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Jim...
Your are edgy this week, and possibly not all that objective. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img]
The person working on my computer is ex-US military and works for a very notable computer company as well as makes his own. Further a co-worker was trained by Microsoft and if both state that Windows has some stability issues... then the Pope is Catholic!
I also watched Ken locate, remove and replace the file in question, therefore witnessed the end results.
Finally, this was not a slap at Microsoft, but an attempt to point a forum friend towards a solution. The F-16 has major instability issues and can only be flown by wire! Fantastic aircraft .... right? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]
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Your are edgy this week,

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I'm always edgy.

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The person working on my computer is ex-US military

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And...? Did he stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night too?

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Further a co-worker was trained by Microsoft and if both state that Windows has some stability issues...

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there are a lot of "paper" MCSEs out there who couldn't find their posterior in the dark with both hands.

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I also watched Ken locate, remove and replace the file in question, therefore witnessed the end results.

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here's the key point- Windows did not corrupt that file. Something the user installed did, or something done by the program itself. There are a lot (and I mean a LOT) of incompetent software devs out there who break all of Microsoft's guidelines just because it's easier.

User-mode programs crashing does not say anything about the stability of the OS. Only the program itself. As I posted above, if something's crashing both browsers then I'd bet dollars to donuts that a browser plugin is causing the problem.
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Re: Browser consistantly crashes

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim Z</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jim...
Your are edgy this week,</div></div>

I'm always edgy.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The person working on my computer is ex-US military</div></div>

And...? Did he stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night too?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Further a co-worker was trained by Microsoft and if both state that Windows has some stability issues...</div></div>

there are a lot of "paper" MCSEs out there who couldn't find their posterior in the dark with both hands.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I also watched Ken locate, remove and replace the file in question, therefore witnessed the end results.</div></div>

here's the key point- Windows did not corrupt that file. Something the user installed did, or something done by the program itself. There are a lot (and I mean a LOT) of incompetent software devs out there who break all of Microsoft's guidelines just because it's easier.

User-mode programs crashing does not say anything about the stability of the OS. Only the program itself. As I posted above, if something's crashing both browsers then I'd bet dollars to donuts that a browser plugin is causing the problem. </div></div>

Or sometimes some things just get corrupted in moving from one place to another. Sorta like "oops didn't mean to bump the corner of that table on the edge of the truck". As a previous post said, it sometimes can be caused by using the cheapest hardware available (see a Austin based computer company). Sometimes it can be caused by a uneducated tech, just learning as he goes (see myself, I am a quick learner though), sometimes it is a windows problem. Nobody is perfect, including Bill Gates, but like it or not, this is a Windows world.

I do believe that Beta tapes were a better format than VHS also, but who was the more widely accepted and why. Figure that out and you will know why this is a Windows world.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Or sometimes some things just get corrupted in moving from one place to another.</div></div>

If that's the case, then there's bad hardware in the mix.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I do believe that Beta tapes were a better format than VHS also, but who was the more widely accepted and why.</div></div>

VHS won because 1) JVC licensed their format to pretty much anyone who asked while Sony didn't, and 2) VHS tapes could hold most feature-length movies while Betamax tapes couldn't (at first.) By the time Betamax tapes had increased run time, VHS already was on its way.
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