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Buying Additional Farm Truck- New Tundra or F-150?
Well, it's time to add another truck to the farm fleet. I'm keeping my 2004 F-350 in the sig. My brother is keeping his '05 Superduty, and we are keeping the '92 F-250 gasser. We need a smaller truck that my sister can feel comfortable driving, and pull her Featherlite 2 horse trailer and 2 Hanovarian horses to and from shows.
The trailer isn't very big--but I'm unsure of the weight. It has a very small equipment/tack room in the front. I'll try to get a total weight/length soon. She's been pulling it with a 2005 Chevy Tahoe, which is barely 1/2 ton. I let her pull with my truck whenever possible, but sometimes I'm working out of my truck when she needs it, and she really doesn't want that big of a truck.
I test drove a new 5.7L Tundra this weekend and was very impressed. It drives great, and I was impressed by the specs.
I haven't driven one of the new 150's.
She is also interested in a new 3/4 ton Suburban, but the thing only gets 12mpg, and it's 18k more than a loaded Tundra.
Is either one of these enough truck for what she is trying to do? Thanks!!
I test drove a new 5.7L Tundra this weekend and was very impressed. It drives great, and I was impressed by the specs.
I bought one last Aug. and am VERY happy with it. 381HP and yet 100% highway driving I get 19.9-20.8 MPG. There's a guy on the Tundra site that has pics of his Tundra hooked up to his long 4 horse gooseneck (5000+lbs. empty?) with a BIG tack room and he says his Toyota pulls it just fine. It should, according to the spec sheet, the 5.7 develops more than 90% of it's peak 401 ft.lbs. torque at 2400Rpm on up through 5500Rpm. I also saw quite a few tourists with 2007 Tundras come through town last season pulling 5th wheels in the 5000 pound range, so I'd sure think your sister would have no trouble pulling a loaded two horse. I kept my diesel also, but I'm putting a B&W gooseneck hitch in my wife's Tundra to pull my 3 horse slant load when needed. (I drove her Tundra 3 weeks last summer, liked it so much I bought one of my own a month later).
The 6 speed trans is smooth as silk as you probably noticed. The only thing I can fault the truck about is quite a few guys have developed cracks along the upper inner sheet metal seam of their tailgates due to loading the heavier ATV's. This was the 2007 models, and guys who's cracked have had them replaced under warranty with a stronger gate. The 2008 Tundras come with the stronger tailgate so no problemo. If you decide on one, I can't say enough good things about the Limited model, it's got a ton of neat features that are all worthwhile.
On Edit: In your case I should add that no one on the Tundra forums who tows has ever mentioned any engine/transmission overheating problems. Ours came with the tow package (maybe they all do for all I know) and that includes a huge trans oil cooler, HD receiver hitch, trans temp gauge, tow/haul trans shift option, etc. And like a diesel, the engine has an oil cooler and piston cooling nozzles. Some of the info I have shows photos of the rear end and it appears double tough, a 10.50" ring gear versus my F-250's 10.25". Hope this info is helpful.
When the new Tundra first came out I went a drove one and I have never been so impressed with a new vehicle as that Tundra. Everything on it worked very well. The engine and transmisison worked better then any other truck I'd ever driven. The power it made with that kind of milage was very impressive too. And that torque which seems to be available at any RPM was also very impressive. The Toyota engineers did a great job with that. However, if its a farm truck, meaning it will get abused, I'd think twice about the Tundra. The Ford would be a much more solid truck that could take more of a beating without the bed and tailgate falling apart. They're still not near as strong as the old beds from years ago, but right now Ford seem to make the strongest out of everything else. If it was highway only use with no slamming heavy objects in back I'd go for the Tundra.
Well, it's time to add another truck to the farm fleet. I'm keeping my 2004 F-350 in the sig. My brother is keeping his '05 Superduty, and we are keeping the '92 F-250 gasser. We need a smaller truck that my sister can feel comfortable driving, and pull her Featherlite 2 horse trailer and 2 Hanovarian horses to and from shows.
The trailer isn't very big--but I'm unsure of the weight. It has a very small equipment/tack room in the front. I'll try to get a total weight/length soon. She's been pulling it with a 2005 Chevy Tahoe, which is barely 1/2 ton. I let her pull with my truck whenever possible, but sometimes I'm working out of my truck when she needs it, and she really doesn't want that big of a truck.
I test drove a new 5.7L Tundra this weekend and was very impressed. It drives great, and I was impressed by the specs.
I haven't driven one of the new 150's.
She is also interested in a new 3/4 ton Suburban, but the thing only gets 12mpg, and it's 18k more than a loaded Tundra.
Is either one of these enough truck for what she is trying to do? Thanks!!
And for us the Titan was the best deal for the bucks and the ride and drive is excellent.
The 08 Titan has some pretty impressive load and towing numbers, better than the 07.
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Ask the Toyota dealer whether the tailgate of the truck is part of the bed or an "accessory." Friend has the Tundra, very nice road truck, but I wouldn't use it on the farm. Friend's tailgate folded in the middle from having sakrete bags stacked on it. Took it to the dealer and they told him it was an "accessory" and was never intended to hold heavy items such as he put on it or driving an ATV into the bed of the truck. His truck was 6 months old, it is a an 06 I think and he purchased a new tailgate; weren't cheap. It does ride nice and everything else is nice about it, but for sure it is a grocery getter and not a farm truck; IMHO
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Took it to the dealer and they told him it was an "accessory" and was never intended to hold heavy items such as he put on it or driving an ATV into the bed of the truck.
I'm not buying that one. Toyota's aware of the problem and they're covered and being replaced under warranty. Besides the guys who've had theirs warrantied, my selling dealer's service manager told me personally mine was covered if it cracked due to ATV loading, etc. He DID mention abuse, like dropping a 1200 lb. round bale on it, like any brand, you're on your own on a deal like that. Secondly, it's not even a 2006 year problem, they never made a 1/2 ton then. However there was a warranty TSB on Tacoma tailgates but that was for a different problem than the current Tundras.
NCfarmboy, I was watching the Detroit auto show on TV last night, and to add to your confusion, they said the new F-150s have been totally re-designed and they spoke highly of it.
I'm not buying that one. Toyota's aware of the problem and they're covered and being replaced under warranty. Besides the guys who've had theirs warrantied, my selling dealer's service manager told me personally mine was covered if it cracked due to ATV loading, etc. He DID mention abuse, like dropping a 1200 lb. round bale on it, like any brand, you're on your own on a deal like that. Secondly, it's not even a 2006 year problem, they never made a 1/2 ton then. However there was a warranty TSB on Tacoma tailgates but that was for a different problem than the current Tundras.
NCfarmboy, I was watching the Detroit auto show on TV last night, and to add to your confusion, they said the new F-150s have been totally re-designed and they spoke highly of it.
Well I'll be sure to tell him how your story worked out; I'm sure that will replace the money that came out of his wallet to replace the tailgate. Take yours to the Toyota dealer in Richmond and see if your dealer's "guarantee" holds water there; somehow I'm guessing I know how that will turn out. As i said, I think it is a nice truck, and he does have the new half ton version. It's quiet, rides nice, fit and finish is nice and I'll bet money that after 4 years on a farm it won't be worth a darn. Engine and trans might still be there, might, but the sheet metal and the interior darn sure won't; though the new tailgate every few months will still look good.
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The old Ford sheet metal is thicker than all others
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Well I'll be sure to tell him how your story worked out; I'm sure that will replace the money that came out of his wallet to replace the tailgate. Take yours to the Toyota dealer in Richmond and see if your dealer's "guarantee" holds water there; somehow I'm guessing I know how that will turn out. As i said, I think it is a nice truck, and he does have the new half ton version. It's quiet, rides nice, fit and finish is nice and I'll bet money that after 4 years on a farm it won't be worth a darn. Engine and trans might still be there, might, but the sheet metal and the interior darn sure won't; though the new tailgate every few months will still look good.
Myth again. Think if this was true that ford wouldn't put a micrometer on their truck and all other trucks and do an add that says see were thicker?
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So is the F-150 really going to get better mileage than the Tundra? I've been around Toyotas for a long time, and while I love my Ford diesel, Toyota makes a tough truck. Anyone who says otherwise just hasn't owned one. We have swapped many a Toy axle into jeeps, and absolutely beat the snot out of the old 22R's, and 22RE's to know they can build them tough.
As far as a farm truck goes, this truck won't be abused. We have a '79 Ford one ton dually that sees only abuse, and hauling round bales. My truck and my brothers '05 pull the tractors, skid steer, and have hay bale duty. The Tundra or 150 would be used by my sister for horse shows and daily driving when she can't use my truck to tow with.
I really appreciate all of the advice, and opinions so far. If the fuel mileage is going to be worse than a 150, that's certainly something to consider. I'll be test driving a new 150 this week. Thanks guys!
If you take the time you will soon find out that the Tundra is a fuel hog!
Can you explain that? Do you even own one?? My wife and I have one each, that makes TWO. Both of them on the open road, 65-69 MPH get 19.9-20.8 time after time. When her's was a week old, we up-river 110 miles round trip and I only went about 55-58 along the Shoshone River driving real conservative, round trip total 22.9.
As a person has in his sig on one of the gun sites---A guy with actual experience is WAY ahead of one with a theory anytime.
Definitely buy the Toyota. Support for American companies is over rated.
The Tundra is made here by American workers being paid real benefits and the profits are paid to the owners of the stock right here on the NYSE!
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The only reason I would vote against the Toyota is the fact that they helped finance the greenies in getting the outerbanks beachs shut down to ORV traffic. I also prefer the Fords over the Tundras because they look better.
The Tundra is made here by American workers being paid real benefits and the profits are paid to the owners of the stock right here on the NYSE!
That is correct! Since the Tundra is assembled here, and Toyota shares are traded on the NYSE, it is truly a red white and blue vehicle. After all, there's not such thing as a 100% American vehicle anymore, so that whole concept is just out of date. Who cares if Ford, GM and Chrysler go out of business? Not me!
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