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Old 03-08-2009, 03:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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F250 SUPERDUTY 6.4l DIESEL versus TOYOTA TUNDRA 5.7L

I have an 08 superduty diesel and have been very unhappy with it. In the shop 5 times for several different things. Thinking of going with a toyota tundra 5.7L .. wondering if anyone has had a toyota tundra and a F250 superduty and can give me there opinion. I have a 16' enclosed trailer that i pull for my lawn care business.
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Old 03-08-2009, 05:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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A lot of guys went the other way, from Tundra to Super Duty. The new Tundras are one of the worst Toyota products in history.
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The new Tundras are one of the worst Toyota products in history.
Thank you for clearing that up.

wfdfirefighter76, my wife bought an '07 in Aug. '07. I tolerated if for about a month, couldn't stand it any longer and had to buy one too. It's about the quietest thing I ever drove, power up the wahzoo, 381HP and 400 ft.lbs.torque. Slick, smooth shifting 6 speed auto trans with top two gears being overdrive. 100% highway driving, we both get 20-22 MPG going 65-68MPH. We both got the loaded Limited editions and it's got tons of trick features. Neither of ours have given us any problems whatsoever.

With that said, it is a heavy 1/2 ton and not a 3/4 ton so I kept my old trusty '91 diesel for trailer towing, although I saw a lot of tourists coming through town last summer with Tundras with 5th wheels in tow. If you'd like any more info, feel free to PM me.
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My pool cleaning buddy bought one last year, it's not too bad. It definitely has the Toyota feel, taut suspension, a pretty quick motor and monster brakes. He has not had any problems with it except some irregular tire wear.

He's not pulled a trailer with it but I suspect the motor is there, I think yanking a 16' trailer wouldn't be any problem.

It is an apples vs oranges question, IMHO. The Tundra isn't a Super Duty and vice versa. Not better or worse, just different.
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With the US economy doing so well and the Big 3 automakers thriving, there is certainly no need to worry trying to purchase from the Big 3.
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Why buy the new Tundra, when you can buy the original.

A Dodge Ram.

The kickoff of for the new Tundra consisted of sending one of their reverse engineers out to buy a Ram and reverse engineer it.

That reverse engineer just happen to be my ex-wife. So why buy a knock of when you can have the original?
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I have an 08 superduty diesel and have been very unhappy with it. In the shop 5 times for several different things. Thinking of going with a toyota tundra 5.7L .. wondering if anyone has had a toyota tundra and a F250 superduty and can give me there opinion. I have a 16' enclosed trailer that i pull for my lawn care business.

It will meet your needs just fine. I wasn't that impressed with the amount of frame flex it seems to have. I was expecting something more rigid like their little Tacoma but it's a fine vehicle nonetheless.

Power is exceptional.

An F150 can be had for a lot cheaper and will also meet your needs just fine but I think one of the best buys out there in the 1/2 ton market is the Nissan Titan.
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Why buy the new Tundra, when you can buy the original.

A Dodge Ram.

The kickoff of for the new Tundra consisted of sending one of their reverse engineers out to buy a Ram and reverse engineer it.

That reverse engineer just happen to be my ex-wife. So why buy a knock of when you can have the original?
Those Dodges do have a great on road feel and tons of power to boot.

I heard that the new Nissan Titan will actually be built on the 1/2 ton dodge frame.
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The kickoff of for the new Tundra consisted of sending one of their reverse engineers out to buy a Ram and reverse engineer it.
...you've been watching too much Transformers...

Although I don't claim to have the hook up in the auto industry, I'm sure every manufacturer buys the competition's vehicles and digs around for what they can find; I know I would.

I did watch a video (put out by Ford) that torture tested the big 3 and the Tundra. They had it on the frame twist track and they were running the Tundra through it at like 20mph... the rear of the frame was twisting so bad the box was hitting the back of the cab. It was crazy.

Given the choice between the F150 and the Tundra or Titan, I would buy the F150... and I don't really care for the F150, it doesn't 'fit' me very well.
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...you've been watching too much Transformers...

Although I don't claim to have the hook up in the auto industry, I'm sure every manufacturer buys the competition's vehicles and digs around for what they can find; I know I would.

I did watch a video (put out by Ford) that torture tested the big 3 and the Tundra. They had it on the frame twist track and they were running the Tundra through it at like 20mph... the rear of the frame was twisting so bad the box was hitting the back of the cab. It was crazy.

Given the choice between the F150 and the Tundra or Titan, I would buy the F150... and I don't really care for the F150, it doesn't 'fit' me very well.
I can actually feel that flex. The truck is nice but it feels "twisty" like a Superduty when I was expecting something more rigid like the Dodge or it's younger brother the Tacoma.
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With the US economy doing so well and the Big 3 automakers thriving, there is certainly no need to worry trying to purchase from the Big 3.
If my information is correct, the Toyota Tundra was designed in Newport Beach, California and engineered in Ann Arbor, Michigan; engines are built in Huntsville, Alabama, transmissions in North Carolina and final assembly is in Princeton, Indiana and San Antonio, Texas. Support the American economy: Buy a Toyota!
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... I did watch a video (put out by Ford) that torture tested the big 3 and the Tundra. They had it on the frame twist track and they were running the Tundra through it at like 20mph... the rear of the frame was twisting so bad the box was hitting the back of the cab. It was crazy.
I'm sure you could do the same thing with any truck if you spent a day experimenting with different track pitches and vehicle speeds until you found the resonance. The video's dramatic, but meaningless.
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I'm sure you could do the same thing with any truck if you spent a day experimenting with different track pitches and vehicle speeds until you found the resonance. The video's dramatic, but meaningless.
I was thinking the same thing, just like road noise at a certain speed.
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It may be a matter of personal preference.

Check to make sure that the Tundra will have enough conventional towing capacity for your application (you didn't mention the weight of the trailer and truck payload). I doubt you would need the a Powerstroke.

As others have mentioned, there may be other trucks that fit the bill and I will tell you that there is little comparison between the two trucks. You have to see what fits your business budget and your personal comfort.
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