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i've been hearing a lot of good things about the 2WD drive version, automatic.
any comments?
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Personally, I like the Escape platform. It's not huge, but it's kind of fun to drive around. I kind of liken it to a Ford Focus wagon that sits really high.
I didn't get to drive a Hybrid model, but, while I was a service advisor, we got some of the first one's in. A couple of our better mechanics took it out on its paces, and they actually really liked it. They felt that it accelerated as well as the V6 model.
Usefulness? If you're doing primarily highway driving or faster in town driving, the hybrid model is not going to give one the payback that you'd get by being a commuter in slow traffic. Might be really neat as mail vehicle in stop and go stuff at low speeds.
Maybe that will give you some perspective.
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Have you looked at the fusion hybrid? It is getting rave reviews. Said to be the best hybrid out yet. I'm sure that title won't last long, but it's nice to see an American car company get good feedback like that on a cutting edge product. If they made a station wagon version, I might buy one (3 kids).
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They use a lot of the Escape Hybrids for NYC taxicabs with great success. If they hold up to taxi use there, they should certainly hold up to being a "family car."
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Have you looked at the fusion hybrid? It is getting rave reviews. Said to be the best hybrid out yet. I'm sure that title won't last long, but it's nice to see an American car company get good feedback like that on a cutting edge product. If they made a station wagon version, I might buy one (3 kids).
The same Japanese company that makes the Prius drivetrain, also makes the one for the Escape and Fusion.
Two more hybrids join the Ford lineup in 2009: the Ford Fusion and Mercury Milan sedans. That will make a total of five hybrids from Ford. The others are the Ford Escape, Mercury Mariner and Mazda Tribute. All five use a 2.5-liter four-cylinder engine teamed with an electric CVT transmission made by Japan's Aisin AW
Toyota does not solely own the patents to the drivetrain but Toyota solely owns the control logic that properly blends the way the electricity is distributed/drawn from/between the generators/traction motors and gasoline engine.
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An Atkinson cycle engine is just like a normal engine but with different cam timing.
Cam timing? How can that be? I thought Atkinson-cycle engines didn't have cams. Aren't the cam humps on the crank? And there's that extra lever or two in the connecting rod/crank area, in order to make the piston do 4 strokes for every crank revolution.
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The Atkinson cycle can refer to almost any engine which has a larger expansion ratio than its compression ratio, regardless of the hardware or geometry use to achieve it.
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Cam timing? How can that be? I thought Atkinson-cycle engines didn't have cams. Aren't the cam humps on the crank? And there's that extra lever or two in the connecting rod/crank area, in order to make the piston do 4 strokes for every crank revolution.
Sorry, I should have been more specific.
I think you are thinking of a true Atkinson-Cycle engine where the power stroke is actually physically longer than the compression stroke. I have never seen such an engine used in an automobile.
I am not totally hip to the actual correct terminology but I think the Prius/Escape engine is more accurately referred to as a "Miller Cycle" engine but without the supercharger.
Miller Cycle uses cam timing instead of actually physically making the strokes different in length. If you saw it up next to a "regular" gasoline engine you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
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I think you are thinking of a true Atkinson-Cycle engine where the power stroke is actually physically longer than the compression stroke. I have never seen such an engine used in an automobile.
I am not totally hip to the actual correct terminology but I think the Prius/Escape engine is more accurately referred to as a "Miller Cycle" engine but without the supercharger.
Miller Cycle uses cam timing instead of actually physically making the strokes different in length. If you saw it up next to a "regular" gasoline engine you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
Oh! So it'd not a Atkinson in as much as it doesn't have the levers to make 4 strokes per rev. So really it's just a retarded I4?
I withdraw my concerns over the Escape Hybrid. FoMoCo's I4 is a well built engine. My bad.
2006 F350 CC LWB Dually XLT Oxford white manual 4x4 6.0 PSD 6 speed. 4.10 LS front and rear, Built May05. 4" turbo back, 55 gal aux fuel tank. A real pig from a stop, give me 15' and she'll slowly come to life, then watch out!
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