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Can i put a 460 from a car in a F 650 that has a 429 in it, The 429 has a front mount and the 460 has side motor mount but will the front mount bolt on to the 460 block?
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1990 F250 Super Cab 2x4 7.3l IDI E4OD Utility bed
1987 E250 Quadravan 4x4 6.9 IDI C6 Banks Turbo, Gearvendor, and U.S. Gear Exhaust Brake
bearings, main & rods, will be different.
Crank will likely be different.
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What truck 429 used in 1982 + heavy trucks is not the same engine as the car 429 used 1973 and before. They are in the same engine series but I would venture to guess that parts interchange is limited. That would extend to the car - based 460.
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they are too different to bolt in but if you have a welder just make a place for the side mounts to go
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i drove a f-700 with a 429 in it with airbrakes that thing was nothing but a gas hog no power what soever
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92 F-250 with luk clutch, got 304,000 miles out of old motor, now have IDI out of a 94 With factory turbo. Bought and installed ATS Exhuast housing, wastegate, downpipe. Turned up pump electric fuel pump. Runs like a bat out of hell.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: andre7910</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i drove a f-700 with a 429 in it with airbrakes that thing was nothing but a gas hog no power what soever </div></div>
Ditto: 4-5 mpg on a GOOD day!
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Mine in my Torino is gallons per hour verses MPG. Trip to town and back is 1/4 tank, and I am only 6 miles from town. But a 12 to 1 roller motor will chew up the fuel fast.
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1993 F350 Crew Cab 4x4 7.3l IDI E4OD No Turbo
1990 F250 Super Cab 2x4 7.3l IDI E4OD Utility bed
1987 E250 Quadravan 4x4 6.9 IDI C6 Banks Turbo, Gearvendor, and U.S. Gear Exhaust Brake
15265,
If you can successfully mate the transmission to the engine, go ahead with the swap. You can make the engine fit. I once had a truck 429 replaced with an automobile 428 from the junk yard and got several more good years of service from the truck involved.
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To mix it up even more I have heard the Lincoln 460's are different from the Ford 460's, they cannot be used in a lot of swaps due to some odd way they are set up.
Our FPD has a F650 tanker with a 2,000 gallon tank and a 429 / 4spd Allison Auto combination. It is one of the least enjoyable vehicles I have ever driven. With a full tank of water, it will barely, barely make 55 mph on flat ground, and will not hold even 40 mph up the slightest of hills.
Going with a 460 is not going to help it any. With power or mpg.
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1996 F-250 extended cab long box five speed. Home made Tymar, 203 Stat, 60 gal in bed fuel cell, 315/75's, no muffler, ebpv welded open 3" to 3" DP, Babies. 290K, still chugging, and still smoking when cold.
UPDATED 1/1/09 Replace so far. 1 LUK flywheel+clutch, 2 thermostats, 2 set of brakes, 1 set of calipers, 5 CPS, 3 sets of tires, 2 Transfer pumps, 1 Injector modual, 1 Computer, 2 Alt, 2 sets of batteries, 1 Water pump, 6 Belts, 1 PS hose, 2 Sets ball joints, 2 set u-joints, 2 carrier bearing, 2 Speed sensors, 1 oil pres sender, 1 temp sender, 4 sets of e-break cables, 1 front fuel tank, 2 rear fuel tanks, 2 set of glow plugs, 7 Glow plug relays, Oil galley o-rings, Turbo pedistal o-rings, EBPV o-rings, 3 sets of Injector O-rings, 1 Vac-pump, 1 new carpet, 1 total paint job.Total $$$ in repairs v/s miles driven = 4.6 cents per mile. Add fuel to that it jumps to 16.5 cents per mile over the life of the truck.
Keep in mind the truck 429 is a custom engine - designed for heavy truck use. Swapping to a car engine - even a larger one - will probably result in lower useable power and a shorter life span.
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429(370 is worse) is a gas drinking slug, I would rather a 300 6 cylinder. I had the displeasure of driving an F-800 with a 12 foot plow, and a 10 yard sander, and 10 gears wern't enough. I say find a nice diesel that needs a home and let it live where the gas hog was.
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