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Old 08-18-2009, 07:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Unhappy Home Electrical Issues

Need a little help guys.

A couple of weeks ago we had a lightning strike somewhere close to the house. We know this because we lost both garage door openers, the sprinkler controls, and the ATT Uverse modem. Well come to find out it also popped a couple of breakers.

These are "ARC Fault" breakers. I replaced them with new ones. So I thought I fixed the problem, but noooooo. I have one that will not behave.

It seems when I turn on the treadmill, it pops the breaker (one of the arc fault units). The same happens with the paper shreader and the TV on (same breaker circuit). It does not pop with a iron however. So I seems to be related to the motor driven things, since I think the iron draws more amps than the shreader.

Any suggestions???? I did already try switching the offending one with a different one.
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Old 08-18-2009, 07:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Have you tried those that are tripping on other circuits? I would probably replace all the electrical outlets on that circuit and see if that helps. If that does not work, you will probably have to do some wire pulling on that circuit.
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I did try the threadmill on another circuit. It did not drip that circuit.

So, you think that the strike may have impacted the outlets somehow? It seems to have only had a lasting impact on this one circuit.
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if that is a grounding outlet (i cant see it) it may be the arc of the lightning may have jumped the breaker. and jumped between, melted, and arced wires together somewhere in that circuit---breaker aint at fault, and the iron may have just come short of tripping it
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All of the outlets are three prong if that is what you mean by grounding outlet. Would an outlet tester pick this up?
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I'm not an electrician but I would imagine you would want to shut off the breaker and test for continuity/resistance between the hot and ground at the outlets and try to isolate the issue.
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I'm not an electrician but I would imagine you would want to shut off the breaker and test for continuity/resistance between the hot and ground at the outlets and try to isolate the issue.

Yup. A simple DVOM will do this.

Start at the panel by isolating the three wires in the circuit by disconnecting them.

Then probe the ends while checking resistance between all three wires. If you have continuity then it's not the breaker (make sure there are no GFCI's on the circuit, if so isolate them) Do this on the entire circuit at each outlet until you isolate the faulted portion of wire and start cutting drywall.
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A typical DVOM tests for resistance and continuity at 9 Volts or less. For locating compromised insulation, you need a hipot ("high potential") tester which will put a few thousand volts on the circuit and measure leakage, arcing or flashover current.

It's also possible that one of your new breakers is overly sensitive. Have you tried swapping breakers within the panel?
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