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Old 06-01-2008, 07:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I saw this in Popular Science

The Pulstar™ Pulse Plug is not just another spark plug!

Is this possible or a gimmick?

How a Pulse Plug works differently than a Spark Plug

Pulse plugs incorporate a pulse circuit, which stores incoming electrical energy from the ignition system and releases the stored energy in a powerful pulse of power. Instead of 50 watts of peak power typical of all spark plugs, pulse plugs deliver up to 10 times more peak power. It takes electrical power to light fuel. The more power (watts) the better. Nothing can compete with Pulstar
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Old 06-01-2008, 08:26 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I am not all that "sold" on them. there have been lots of "revolutionary" changes for plugs. Multi tip being one of them. When I looked up plugs for the wife's '04 Honda accord they were $25.00/each!! at $3.99 ea and 30MPG I'm okay for now, Oh I allmost forgot, they DON"T say how long they last...
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looks like a less effective way to have a multiple spark discharge.

AKA MSD.

AKA MSD IGNITIONS.
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I am not all that "sold" on them. there have been lots of "revolutionary" changes for plugs. Multi tip being one of them. When I looked up plugs for the wife's '04 Honda accord they were $25.00/each!! at $3.99 ea and 30MPG I'm okay for now,Oh I allmost forgot, they DON"T say how long they last...
It's in their FAQ section
Q: How long do Pulstar™ plugs last?

A: Pulstar™ plugs lasts as long as most spark plugs - about 50,000 miles depending on the condition of your vehicle and driving habits.

Their proof readers could use a little help with spelling and grammar....


I'm not all that enthusiastic to try them at $25/each.

The OEM platinum-tip plugs in my Mustang should be good for 100K, according to Ford. My Mustang is getting 26-28 MPG commuting to work. IF they improved my fuel economy by 5%, it would take over 21,000 miles to justify the cost with $4/gallon gasoline....
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Sounds like hokey to me. Yes, you can store energy in a capacitor but you can't get more energy out than you put in. In fact you will always lose some. IT IS ENERGY, NOT POWER, THAT LIGHTS THE FIRE. The only source of energy for a sparkplug is the ignition coil or circuit driving it. I suspect that the plug in question is just an old fashioned gapped plug. These have a spark gap in series with the regular ignition gap up in the insulator area. When the ignition coil "fires" its voltage rises until the first gap breaks down, since its breakdown is higher than the gap in the combustion chamber, the voltage reaches a much higher level than it would have with just the combustion chamber gap. When the first gap breaks down it acts like a switch and the high voltage passes to the combustion chamber gap which in turn fires or breaks down. The resultant higher voltage will produce a "hotter" initial spark, even though the same energy is dissipated over the total spark duration. The power peak is higher but the energy dissipated is not. The old timers used this series gap technique to fire fouled plugs. The only time you may need something like this is if there is something seriously wrong with your engine.

I have designed and built electronic ignitions since the 1960s. Both CDI and variations of electronic Kettering systems. It is hard to improve on the present factory ignition systems. The only time you may have a need to improve the ignition on a modern day engine is if it is highly modified and the RPM range is raised significantly.
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Sounds like hokey to me. Yes, you can store energy in a capacitor but you can't get more energy out than you put in. In fact you will always lose some. IT IS ENERGY, NOT POWER, THAT LIGHTS THE FIRE. The only source of energy for a sparkplug is the ignition coil or circuit driving it. I suspect that the plug in question is just an old fashioned gapped plug. These have a spark gap in series with the regular ignition gap up in the insulator area. When the ignition coil "fires" its voltage rises until the first gap breaks down, since its breakdown is higher than the gap in the combustion chamber, the voltage reaches a much higher level than it would have with just the combustion chamber gap. When the first gap breaks down it acts like a switch and the high voltage passes to the combustion chamber gap which in turn fires or breaks down. The resultant higher voltage will produce a "hotter" initial spark, even though the same energy is dissipated over the total spark duration. The power peak is higher but the energy dissipated is not. The old timers used this series gap technique to fire fouled plugs. The only time you may need something like this is if there is something seriously wrong with your engine.

I have designed and built electronic ignitions since the 1960s. Both CDI and variations of electronic Kettering systems. It is hard to improve on the present factory ignition systems. The only time you may have a need to improve the ignition on a modern day engine is if it is highly modified and the RPM range is raised significantly.
Leaning to your answer. Thanks for the response!
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So, bascially, if you have an 'older' vehicle, improving the ignition system w/ a MSD or similar or a higher output coil and keeping your ignition wires good will do more good then this plug.....

That's what I thought.... I suppose it's the old saying, if it sounds too good to be true, it prob. is....
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