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Knowing enough to know I don't know anything... I'll ask the resident experts. Would you convert to natural gas or propane? I am in the middle of a massive renovation and converting from electric to ??. Hope everyone had a Merry Christmas!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: wmecdoc</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Knowing enough to know I don't know anything... I'll ask the resident experts. Would you convert to natural gas or propane? I am in the middle of a massive renovation and converting from electric to ??. Hope everyone had a Merry Christmas! </div></div>
Natural gas if available
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It is basically all the same stuff, but NG will be cheaper due to less transportation charges.
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Go natural all the way as stated, it is way cheaper, I have a propane home now. The home I am moving into next month is Natural.
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your in cali so id check on earthquakes cutting off the ng but if you are not in the bay area which is notorious id say ng but if you will need to have gas all the time and have a chance of a disaster cutting the line then go propane back up all it is is a propane tank plumbed into your ng line that will be filled and used as needed
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Normally, if you can get NG, that's the one to go with. Propane is for people that live off-the-grid, gas wise. Last I looked, you could still get appliances with interchangeable jets, so you could set them up for either NG or LPG. If you're really worried about getting cut off, make sure you check that out when you buy - you could always switch over the necessities in a pinch.
in addition, if your upgrading hvac system, get the best heating equipment, eff wise. carrier infinity system for hot air, buderus or weil mclean wall hung boilers for hot water heating..
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'11 e350 super cargo,ingot silver, v10.
'09 mazda6i grand touring, black cherry,blk leather.
'77 450SL benz in the family since new.
'91 350sdl turbo diesel benz
'10 MAZDA 6i, DAUGHTERS RIDE
'90 560sel benz. what a pos.
The OP is in NC. Not much danger of earthquakes in NC.
When switching from electric to gas, be sure you switch the water heater(s). That's a bigger year-round money saver than the furnace in NC. And while you're switching to gas water heaters, check out the cost effectiveness of going with a whole-house tankless water heater.
I'm on butane/propane because natural gas is not available out in the sticks, but I have everything on gas than can be on gas. Furnace, water heaters, clothes dryer, kitchen range, even a gas-log stove in the living room.
I added 250 gallons of butane/propane to my 500-gallon tank last week. $2.25 per gallon, so $562.50 total this time. That should last me until around July or August. So about $1,200 per year for gas, with two old folks rattling around in a 3,000 square foot well-insulated ranch-style house.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 88beast</div><div class="ubbcode-body">your in cali so id check on earthquakes cutting off the ng but if you are not in the bay area which is notorious id say ng but if you will need to have gas all the time and have a chance of a disaster cutting the line then go propane back up all it is is a propane tank plumbed into your ng line that will be filled and used as needed </div></div>
Yes, but you have to change ALL of your jets on everything or you will have big problems.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ashshade</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 88beast</div><div class="ubbcode-body">your in cali so id check on earthquakes cutting off the ng but if you are not in the bay area which is notorious id say ng but if you will need to have gas all the time and have a chance of a disaster cutting the line then go propane back up all it is is a propane tank plumbed into your ng line that will be filled and used as needed </div></div>
Yes, but you have to change ALL of your jets on everything or you will have big problems. </div></div>
Ditto that. Swapping out the orifices can be a MAJOR PIA.
Ever convert a Viking range? [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazy.gif[/img]
IRRC, FWIW, propane burns hotter. More BTU's.
Just paid $2.58/gallon. ng is not available in this area yet.
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Depending on where you are in NC, I'd suggest making some careful efficiency judgments on elec. heat pump vis. gas [natural, if available; if not, LP] before making the change on your HVAC. In my situation [GA - relatively cheap 'lectric from Ga. Power], and off the natural gas grid, the numbers tell me that a heat pump is the way to go in our two-story, zoned or two-system house. When the time, fast approaching, comes to replace the existing 20 yr. old heat pump(s) in the farm house we bought this past summer, I'll stick to elec. heat pump - though we LIKE natural gas for the 'warmth' of the heat. We have LP for fireplace starters, cooktop and dryer. I installed the cooktop and dryer [converting both to LP for the factory natural gas setup], because an LP gas dryer works faster than electric, and we like a gas cooktop. I have been disappointed in the LP cooktop - LP doesn't cook as 'hot' as natural gas, and the jets, for some reason, aren't as adjustable. Hope this rambling helps ...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Riggodeaux</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I have been disappointed in the LP cooktop - LP doesn't cook as 'hot' as natural gas, and the jets, for some reason, aren't as adjustable. Hope this rambling helps ... </div></div>
That's interesting because I've always felt that LP cooked hotter than NG. I am in the process of enlargeing my lake house, and I plan on installing a new LP cook top when the time comes (currently have an electric stove). I am also at the point of removing my 8 year old LP water heater and replacing it with a whole-house LP tankless water heater. Just waiting for the funds to do the switchover.
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