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Old 02-21-2008, 07:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Thumbs up Navy pride!

With todays shooting down of a spy satellite, you have to marvel at the men and women of the Navy and their use of amazing technology.

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Where do they get these smart individuals?
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The technology used is unbelievable. Those folks on that ship were real experts. I can tell you one place they get the good folks. Check this out .http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/...demies-190212/
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Technically speaking?

Do you think anyone else can really do this or send a man to the moon?
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Yes it was really unbelievable that they were able to push the appropriate button on the console to make the missile go off. I agree it is great technology that we can hit a small target outside of the earths atmosphere. P.S. I can talk smack about the button pushers as I retired after 20 years in the Navy as a Machinest Mate. P.S.S. Congratulations KingTut on your sons appointment to the U.S. Naval Acadamy
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We are not the 1st country to bring down a satellite with a missile......... China shot down one of their old satellites a while back in a missile test.
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We are not the 1st country to bring down a satellite with a missile......... China shot down one of their old satellites a while back in a missile test.
That was last year.

We did it the first time in 1985. So we were the first... again.

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I stand corrected. thanks for the info,


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The $60 Million MissileWhy is it so expensive to shoot down a spy satellite?

By Michelle Tsai
Posted Thursday, Feb. 21, 2008, at 6:23 PM ET

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A missile fired from a Navy warship on Wednesday night shot down a U.S. spy satellite that had been malfunctioning 130 miles above the Earth. The price tag for the endeavor has been pegged at upward of $30 million and even as high as $60 million, depending on the news report. Why did it cost so much money to shoot one missile?
They needed to reprogram the weapons. Once the orders were given on Jan. 4 to destroy the satellite, the Department of Defense had just a few weeks to outfit two Navy cruisers—the USS Lake Erie and USS Decatur—with rejiggered Aegis defense systems and a total of three SM-3 missiles. Only one missile was fired on Wednesday, but the other two had to be ready, in case a second or third attempt was needed. Since each SM-3 missile costs $9.5 million, the tab for the munitions alone adds up to almost $30 million.
Customizing the Aegis system and missiles for the satellite mission was a major expense. The technologies were originally designed to intercept ballistic missiles using heat sensors, but the spy satellite was cooler in temperature. To account for this difference, the three SM-3's needed new software, hardware, and sensors, and the launching systems had to be given new sensors and software updates. The bulk of this task would have been assigned to high-priced contractors—like Raytheon, the maker of the missile, or Lockheed Martin, maker of the Aegis system. And it would have taken a large crew of engineers to rewrite the code, debug it, and test it over and over again—all within three weeks. The stakes were also higher than they would be for a commercial software release, as the system had to work perfectly in a 10-second window; there was no opportunity to fix problems with software patches later on. (Before this week's launch, the same anti-missile system had been successful on eight of 10 tries.)
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The $60 Million MissileWhy is it so expensive to shoot down a spy satellite?

By Michelle Tsai
Posted Thursday, Feb. 21, 2008, at 6:23 PM ET

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A missile fired from a Navy warship on Wednesday night shot down a U.S. spy satellite that had been malfunctioning 130 miles above the Earth. The price tag for the endeavor has been pegged at upward of $30 million and even as high as $60 million, depending on the news report. Why did it cost so much money to shoot one missile?
They needed to reprogram the weapons. Once the orders were given on Jan. 4 to destroy the satellite, the Department of Defense had just a few weeks to outfit two Navy cruisers—the USS Lake Erie and USS Decatur—with rejiggered Aegis defense systems and a total of three SM-3 missiles. Only one missile was fired on Wednesday, but the other two had to be ready, in case a second or third attempt was needed. Since each SM-3 missile costs $9.5 million, the tab for the munitions alone adds up to almost $30 million.
Customizing the Aegis system and missiles for the satellite mission was a major expense. The technologies were originally designed to intercept ballistic missiles using heat sensors, but the spy satellite was cooler in temperature. To account for this difference, the three SM-3's needed new software, hardware, and sensors, and the launching systems had to be given new sensors and software updates. The bulk of this task would have been assigned to high-priced contractors—like Raytheon, the maker of the missile, or Lockheed Martin, maker of the Aegis system. And it would have taken a large crew of engineers to rewrite the code, debug it, and test it over and over again—all within three weeks. The stakes were also higher than they would be for a commercial software release, as the system had to work perfectly in a 10-second window; there was no opportunity to fix problems with software patches later on. (Before this week's launch, the same anti-missile system had been successful on eight of 10 tries.)

Didn't even come close to $30M. For example, showing the costs of three missiles is moronic: the three missiles were already bought and paid for, their cost was irrelevant since they already existed. You CAN make a case that it will cost $10M to replace the fired missile, whoopie.

3-4 weeks = pretty much this was a software fix/mod, there was no time for hardware design and/or mods. $10M in 3-4 weeks? Not likely. Travel for... how many people to retrofit those ships, even at 10 people per ship (I believe there were three ships involved, not sure), but figure three ships x 10 people x $10K each travel costs and $20K each labor, still pretty far from millions and millions of $$.

Software mod = we can do this anytime we want, anyone wanna bet that this will be in the next block update?
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