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Old 03-24-2009, 09:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Tractor recommendation, NH vs Deere

I am looking to replace my Ford 3930 fwd with something that has a little more hp to tug a round baler on these hills. I was interested in something abouut the size of a New Holland TN75 (62 pto hp) The options I see right now are a used TN75SA fwd cab tractor with all the bells and whistles, ie. super steer, clutchless shuttle, etc.., a new, left over TN75 fwd ROPS tractor nicely equipped with the clutchless shuttle, or a new New Holland T4030 fwd. In the JD line, a left over 5403 fwd, or a 5075M fwd both of which are 60 - 65 pto hp. Any objecive opinions? Does anybody have any experience with any of these tractors?

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Old 03-25-2009, 06:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I have a JD 5300 MFWD bought in 1995 and have been well pleased with it. One factor for the way I use my tractor is weight and while I did not compare NH to the JD I did look at the Kubota of same relative size. Also felt the operator's station layout of the JD suited me better. One significant issue was that it was designed with the loader control stalk in a position that allowed either side mount/dismount of the open station tractor with loader mounted. I had dealt with my dad's Ford with loader for numerous years before and did not like the one side only entry. Do not have experience with the particular models you enumerated though, just thought I would respond to your thread to get some comments going.
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In the JD line, a left over 5403 fwd, or a 5075M fwd both of which are 60 - 65 pto hp.
I'd choose the 5403. But the new ones now have 74 drawbar horses (64 PTO).
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I grew up on a farm in the 1950s when my Dad insisted on JD for his big row-crop tractors and Ferguson for his little guys. I was driving a Ferguson 20 from can 'till can't when I was 8 years old. We had the old 2-cylinder Poppin' Johnnys, models G, 70, eventually 720 before I left home, plus a 730 after I left for college. We ran them on "butane" (LPG you now call propane) which cost seven cents per gallon back then. A coupla years after I left home, Dad bought his first JD diesel tractor, model 4010, but I don't remember ever driving it.

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So 50 years later I still have two John Deere garden tractors plus an ancient 4-cylinder diesel John Deere backhoe that still does a good day's work digging mesquite stumps. That old backhoe is over 30 years old, but cranks right up and goes to work any time I ask it to. So if I'm going to buy a new tractor of any kind, it's going to be something made by John Deere.

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I have actually ruled out the JD 5403. It is 64 pto hp, but it is a light, light tractor compared to the NH or M series Deere. It weighs about 1500# less than the others. So now we're down to the TN75, 4030, or 5075M. Thanks for the replies so far.
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I am not sure which makes/models/etc have contracted with offshore companies to supply smaller tractors. There is some good discussion here:

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Fortunatly, I don't want or need a smaller tractor. The Utiliy NHs are built by New Holland in Italy, and the Deere's are assembled in GA.
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Fortunatly, I don't want or need a smaller tractor. The Utiliy NHs are built by New Holland in Italy, and the Deere's are assembled in GA.
I guess some perspective is needed - we farm and anything under 200 hp is a 'small' tractor!
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I guess some perspective is needed - we farm and anything under 200 hp is a 'small' tractor!
LOL. I can see that. Around here, most people farm with 45 to 100 pto hp. Anything bigger and you couldn't turn it around or get it between trees.
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