10 million miles of dyno and actual testing! - Diesel Forum

RRose · 10-10-2006, 05:14 PM

So..... do you guys think this truck is gonna be good to go from day one with 10 million miles of testing? I even heard that this truck has been ready for a year, but delayed for the testing..... We all know Ford took a beating on the 6.0L in warranty costs....

I have to say..... I'm really excited about this truck. It comes with a ton of options that I had to do my truck myself!

Diesel Jay · 10-10-2006, 06:40 PM

The truck may have been "ready" a year ago, but the engine hasn't been finalized anywhere near that long.

- Jay

IH_Eggrole · 10-10-2006, 08:09 PM

I pray that between Ford and Navistar someone tested enough, and didnt try to force this thing through like the 6.0 in an attempt to make emissions standards and in turn cause the consumer problems and the loss of return customers when concerning the 6.0's that had major problems.

MrPlowJr_EZ_V · 10-11-2006, 11:09 AM

10 Million miles, hard to believe I haven't seen one yet.

Need me a 7.3 · 10-11-2006, 01:40 PM

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10 Million miles, hard to believe I haven't seen one yet.

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Casey_1 · 10-11-2006, 02:07 PM

A lot of those miles are on a dyno inside a building, so you aren't going to see those. Many more miles are on test tracks, so unless you work there you won't see those, either. And a lot of those that run prototype drivetrains are current model trucks with the new drivetrains installed. You may have seen those, but unless you looked under the hood of a truck that you saw on the road all you would know is that you saw a diesel '05 or '06 truck going down the road.

noa1794 · 10-12-2006, 05:44 AM

I used to test drive cars and light trucks for Dana-Spicer many years ago. Ten million miles is only a very middle range amount of testing. It is not a lot. I hope the actual figure is a lot higher than 10 million. For myself, I think there is a Cummins in my immediate future, at least until Ford works out the 6.4L bugs.

frobozz · 10-12-2006, 07:34 AM

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For myself, I think there is a Cummins in my immediate future, at least until Ford works out the 6.4L bugs.

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Look, I own one of the earliest 6.0L trucks, I have every reason to be as pessimistic as anyone... but even I am not going to go around talking about "the 6.4L bugs" when they haven't even started making or selling them yet! That's a bit much. Maybe I'm just a tad sensitive, having previously worked in an industry where people would start discussing how good or bad our next product was before anyone had ever seen it. Even if you're sure they're going to screw it up, you at least owe them the courtesy of waiting until the product actually exists in customer's hands before decreeing it.

Duncan

Dr.Evil · 10-12-2006, 11:32 AM

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For myself, I think there is a Cummins in my immediate future, at least until Ford works out the 6.4L bugs.

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Look, I own one of the earliest 6.0L trucks, I have every reason to be as pessimistic as anyone... but even I am not going to go around talking about "the 6.4L bugs" when they haven't even started making or selling them yet! That's a bit much. Maybe I'm just a tad sensitive, having previously worked in an industry where people would start discussing how good or bad our next product was before anyone had ever seen it. Even if you're sure they're going to screw it up, you at least owe them the courtesy of waiting until the product actually exists in customer's hands before decreeing it.

Duncan

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Yep, There's enough changes to the new CTD that I'd probably be more afraid of a new Dodge 6.7L than a 6.4 PSD.

noa1794 · 10-12-2006, 03:26 PM

You speak of "courtesy" toward Ford after the 6.0L debacle? "Courtesy" toward a company that just announced that it is shipping over 70,000 jobs oversees undermining the American worker? Ford has a bad track record in recent history. Yes, it is possible that they will straighten it all out. I hope so. Until I see signs of that I guess you and I will just have to disagree, Fobozz. Good luck to us both.

fordmantpw · 10-12-2006, 04:12 PM

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...having previously worked in an industry where people would start discussing how good or bad our next product was before anyone had ever seen it...

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Did you work for Microsoft? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

J/K...I'm a MS fan and a programmer focusing on MS technologies, just know they always get a bad rap.

frobozz · 10-12-2006, 04:18 PM

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Did you work for Microsoft? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

J/K...I'm a MS fan and a programmer focusing on MS technologies, just know they always get a bad rap.

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HAHAHAHA! OK, good counterexample. Eventually if you pump out crap long enough, it probably *is* safe to just rag on the next product even before anyone's seen it. Heck, you can probably legitimately rag on versions of Windows they haven't even thought of yet!

But just because the 6.0 was a fiasco is no reason to automatically assume the 6.4L will be too. Maybe, just maybe Ford learned from their mistakes. (I'll be as UNsurprised as the next guy if they haven't, but I'm willing to give them that shot.)

Duncan

rc38 · 10-12-2006, 08:02 PM

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You speak of "courtesy" toward Ford after the 6.0L debacle? "Courtesy" toward a company that just announced that it is shipping over 70,000 jobs oversees undermining the American worker? Ford has a bad track record in recent history. Yes, it is possible that they will straighten it all out. I hope so. Until I see signs of that I guess you and I will just have to disagree, Fobozz. Good luck to us both.

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And the Cummings you plan on buying till the so called "6.4 bugs are worked out". [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img]
The Dodge truck is built in Mexico,so on one hand you complain that Ford is sending 70,000 overseas,then you talk about buying a truck from Mexico. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]
And i work at KTP,and i believe this truck will be a good product.

06ram610 · 10-13-2006, 01:45 PM

My 06 2500 was built in St. Louis......so not all trucks are built in mexico....

06ram610 · 10-13-2006, 01:47 PM

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For myself, I think there is a Cummins in my immediate future, at least until Ford works out the 6.4L bugs.

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Look, I own one of the earliest 6.0L trucks, I have every reason to be as pessimistic as anyone... but even I am not going to go around talking about "the 6.4L bugs" when they haven't even started making or selling them yet! That's a bit much. Maybe I'm just a tad sensitive, having previously worked in an industry where people would start discussing how good or bad our next product was before anyone had ever seen it. Even if you're sure they're going to screw it up, you at least owe them the courtesy of waiting until the product actually exists in customer's hands before decreeing it.

Duncan

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Yep, There's enough changes to the new CTD that I'd probably be more afraid of a new Dodge 6.7L than a 6.4 PSD.

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And what would you base this post on??????? I don't believe in any of the cummins conversions they have had near the problems that the 6.0 has had...But if you know of some, plz let us all know.