6.4L Power Stroke Engine and DrivetrainDiscussion of the 6.4L Power Stroke diesel engine and drivetrain in the 2008 Super-Duty trucks. No gas engine discussion allowed except on transmissions and drivetrain that pertain to all models. Please confine discussion of topics in this forum to those items that are specific to the 6.4L Power Stroke engine.
Unfortunately, I had a problem yesterday afternoon. Was on my way out the door to pick up some building material and my truck would not run above idle. You may remember that I posted about two weeks ago about the same problem but figured it to be an air element restriction because when I reset the tripped gauge, the truck ran great again. This time, no tripped gauge. After messing around with the truck for a while, I had no choice but to call for a tow with all the neighbors around. Crap. Really sucked to have everyone watching it loaded up too.
Anyway, Ford's Emergency Roadside Service was very professional and had me taken care of in 45 minutes from the time I called. Only problem was they took it to the closest dealer which is a smaller one and doesn't work on as many diesels. The dealer told me that mine was the very first 08 they worked on. yippee.
I haven't picked it up yet, but seems it was a glow plug module that needed to be replaced. They say it runs great now so we'll see. Guess they did pretty good to get me in and out so quickly. It has been a PITA but on the other hand,it was good to hear that it was the only one they have worked on.
Just figured I'd post this in case anyone else runs into a similar problem.
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2008 SD 250 PSD King Ranch 4X4, SWB, CC, Auto 3.73
Viper 791 XV alarm with remote start. FS2500 bypass filter. Edge Insight multi gauge. Line-X. Retrax.
Was this the first start up of the day? Just curious, if the glow plugs are needed for every start up or only when block is cold, first start up of the day. I know how you feel, my '04 died when driving down the road one day, luckily I was able to get it off of the road and mostly into a parking lot. That is the day I found out my legs have retained some of the strength they had in the Navy, I was able to push that beast about 25 feet into a parking spot. Turned out to be the infamous wiring harness. Ford picked it up and had it running the next morning, never has let me down again.
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2008 F-450 Lariat Dark Stone Metallic over Pueblo Gold 4x4(manual shift transfer case, manual hubs), High capacity tow 4:88s, Off Road, Camper packages, Sirius Sat, Upfitter switches, DVD entertainment, tailgate step, traction control, Audiophile 6-disc, PTC Supplemental heat and heated seats(warm buns), rear sensors, traction control, tailgate step. Built May 8, delivered May 24
Reese Signature Series 24k fiver hitch, I installed it myself, best hitch I have found yet
Line-X bedliner, heavy duty floor mats
2003 Sunline F281SR(weekend getaways)
SeaRay 215EC http://community.webshots.com/user/C...host=community
That's correct Capt. First start of the day. The "pigtail" light went out and she started right up, no issues. Idled fine. Just sputtered though when getting the gas. Especially when it was lowered into drive. Made a much louder rapping noise too in drive.
Was glad they had a control module in stock.
Didn't know squids had legs Capt. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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2008 SD 250 PSD King Ranch 4X4, SWB, CC, Auto 3.73
Viper 791 XV alarm with remote start. FS2500 bypass filter. Edge Insight multi gauge. Line-X. Retrax.
Squiddley dee doo to you, too. Yup, I think I probably have lost my sea legs by now. I watch my favorite TV show "Deadliest Catch"(on tonight!!) and I get wobbly. Is great a small dealer had the necessary part. Of course we will read how Ford is dying, the 6.4 is an utter failure because your glow plug module failed and left you stranded. I remember we lost an APU on a stopover in Olongapo, PI and had to wait a week for a replacement, I was so sad [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/phoney.gif[/img]
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2008 F-450 Lariat Dark Stone Metallic over Pueblo Gold 4x4(manual shift transfer case, manual hubs), High capacity tow 4:88s, Off Road, Camper packages, Sirius Sat, Upfitter switches, DVD entertainment, tailgate step, traction control, Audiophile 6-disc, PTC Supplemental heat and heated seats(warm buns), rear sensors, traction control, tailgate step. Built May 8, delivered May 24
Reese Signature Series 24k fiver hitch, I installed it myself, best hitch I have found yet
Line-X bedliner, heavy duty floor mats
2003 Sunline F281SR(weekend getaways)
SeaRay 215EC http://community.webshots.com/user/C...host=community
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Sorry, but the failure mode doesn't make much sense. Once the engine is running, it shouldn't need the glow plugs. What was the ambient temp?
I have a feeling that the problem will come back.
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I agree ! Please tell me that the dealership really didn't replace the glowplug module and think they had the problem fixed.
According to my owners manual glow plugs stay on after truck is started when cold for a short period. I want to say 3 minutes, but without the manual in front of me I can't recall. So yes if ambient temp was cold enough it is possible that this could prevent the engine from running properly after ignition.
I can buy that the glow plugs might stay on after the engine is started. But I've never seen an engine that wouldn't idle without glowplugs after it has started.
With any diesel I've ever had, if it fires to start, it will idle.
Maybe the engine is running so bad that it won't idle without the glowplugs on ?
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I remember we lost an APU on a stopover in Olongapo, PI and had to wait a week for a replacement, I was so sad
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A week in Olongapo boy I remember those days... did they ever find out who disabled the APU... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
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Mike
Puyallup, WA
You can have my 6 speed when you pry my cold dead fingers from it! or if I get an 08!
Picked up on 2/18 - "04" F350, Crew Cab, 4X4 SRW Lariat PSD 6.0 w/ 6 spd w/ Momo shift knob, BD Power short shifter, Prodigy brake controller, Wedgewood Blue/Arizona Beige w/ all the factory goodies. TRUCK IS FOR SALE.
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I can buy that the glow plugs might stay on after the engine is started. But I've never seen an engine that wouldn't idle without glowplugs after it has started.
With any diesel I've ever had, if it fires to start, it will idle.
Maybe the engine is running so bad that it won't idle without the glowplugs on ?
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He said that it would not run ABOVE an idle. Therefore, it would idle, but not make power if he gave it throttle.
Yes, I agree that the glow plugs can stay on after initial start. However, if the engine idles well without the glow plugs, then it should run well without the glow plugs at all speeds.
Some of our bigger diesel gensets here at work don't have glowplugs, and like was stated earlier, if it hits it'll run. I think/thought glowplugs were only for cold starting. That way you don't have to use ether/starting fluid. Saves on head bolts, gaskets etc...
2006 F350 CC LWB Dually XLT Oxford white manual 4x4 6.0 PSD 6 speed. 4.10 LS front and rear, Built May05. 4" turbo back, 100gal aux fuel tank. A real pig from a stop, but give me 10' and she'll lite'em up.
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With any diesel I've ever had, if it fires to start, it will idle.
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That isn't always the case if it's cold enough outside and you don't have anywhere to plug in the block heater. I had a problem back in March at -4*F where I could get it to start, but it would only idle for a few seconds before stalling, and I couldn't give it any throttle to work it through the stalling idle. Took about 2 dozen attempts to get it to start AND stay running. I'll be trying to track down that issue before next winter. Almost like the fuel getting dumped in at idle was so cold, that the glow plugs couldn't heat it enough in that short time to help with continuous ignition.
However, I don't think Sequoia's problem is similar to what I experienced.
Looks like he is in Florida, so I really do not think it is a being to cold to run thing. Not in Mid to Late April anyway. Looks like if it will crank and Idle then it should rev-up some. Also, in his earlier post he had some what of a problem and when he reset the air filter restriction gauge it cleared right up. The re-setting the restriction gauge does not clean out the filter. You only reset it AFTER you replace the filter with a new one or you clean the old one out. I do not see how that would make it fix it's self. Seems like there is another problem that is rising it's head when it wants to. I would keep looking. But who am I to say, I'm just a painter.
painter213
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2008 F-350 SRW CC, Auto. Love It.
97 F-350 CC SRW4x4 5 speed manual South Bend Clutch. Tymar Intake, 3" Down Pipe and a Custom 4 inch Exaust. Soon to start a few other minor mods for a few more ponies.
ADDED: 95 F-450 reg. cab. 183" wheelbase, 5 speed manual, 5:13 gears. Bone Stock for now. Bought it with 67,500 miles, for $8,500.00. Has a 13ft. flat bed, with a Ramsy 9ton dump.
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Looks like he is in Florida, so I really do not think it is a being to cold to run thing. Not in Mid to Late April anyway. Looks like if it will crank and Idle then it should rev-up some. Also, in his earlier post he had some what of a problem and when he reset the air filter restriction gauge it cleared right up. The re-setting the restriction gauge does not clean out the filter. You only reset it AFTER you replace the filter with a new one or you clean the old one out. I do not see how that would make it fix it's self. Seems like there is another problem that is rising it's head when it wants to. I would keep looking. But who am I to say, I'm just a painter.
painter213
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Yeah, I'm an accountant by education and a contractor by trade so diesels are not a strong point for me. Learning more all the time from you guys though. I have to agree that when the service rep told me it was a glow plug module, I really didn't understand why that would affect the truck after the start. Ambient temp was around 80 and I left it idleing for ten minutes to see if it would run well enough to drive to the dealer. No such luck. Put it in drive and she would just miss and sputter, though it never stalled.
Air filter restriction gauge reset was probably coincidental. I checked the filter and tube and nothing was clogged etc., so it makes me wonder what really tripped the gauge and why.
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2008 SD 250 PSD King Ranch 4X4, SWB, CC, Auto 3.73
Viper 791 XV alarm with remote start. FS2500 bypass filter. Edge Insight multi gauge. Line-X. Retrax.
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