6.4 in international applications- not too reliable? - Diesel Forum

clydesdale · 12-09-2006, 07:49 PM

I had recently heard from a tech that the 6.4 is not very reliable in the international applications. He said the motor has been out about a year and is not reliable, much like the 6.0. Anybody hear the same thing?

frobozz · 12-09-2006, 08:11 PM

Uh, no, it hasn't been out a year in International applications, it isn't out even yet... Was this a GM tech you heard this from, by chance?

Duncan

clydesdale · 12-09-2006, 09:37 PM

no, but i guess he doesnt know what the hell he is talking about. Thanks

guardrail22 · 12-10-2006, 12:52 AM

this engine has no operating history anywhere folks - its on the street for al at same time in 1Q07.

two Ford sales guys told me in August they were waiting on 07s with the new 6.4 in them.

They were trained by the guy mentioned above I guess.

grounder · 12-10-2006, 11:18 PM

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I had recently heard from a tech that the 6.4 is not very reliable in the international applications. He said the motor has been out about a year and is not reliable, much like the 6.0. Anybody hear the same thing?

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Sushibar · 12-11-2006, 02:04 AM

Was told that this truck (s) have been tested up in the Alberta Oil sands for about 5-6 months already. Maybe bull, but never crapped out like some 6.0 did.

I don't know, it is what I heard, take a shovel and heap it on I guess.

I don't work in AB and I drive an 03, that has never left me stranded. Knock on wood.

Mine still runs, I'm gonna drive till it drops, or the warranty runs out. which is 1.5 years to go.

DarkShadowDiesel · 12-11-2006, 11:56 AM

yea i heard from a ford tech who did some testing that they were having trouble and that average warranty cost per truck was expected to rise quite a bit over what it was with the 6.0. he probably doesn't have a clue what he's talking about either though.
haven't heard much about the success to date in internationals, however.

Need me a 7.3 · 12-11-2006, 02:34 PM

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yea i heard from a ford tech who did some testing that they were having trouble and that average warranty cost per truck was expected to rise quite a bit over what it was with the 6.0. he probably doesn't have a clue what he's talking about either though.
haven't heard much about the success to date in internationals, however.

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That sounds like complete speculation...I hope anyhow, for Ford's sake. Something like this would certainly be the death of them!

DarkShadowDiesel · 12-11-2006, 06:08 PM

hands on testing experience is hands on testingexperience, so make whatever you want of it. one would think that they would calculate average warranty cost as it might affect other costs/prices. though i'll probably never own another ford, i will be very disappointed if the 6.4 doesn't get off to a good start. after the 6.0 launch, nothing would surprise me.

560TURBO · 12-11-2006, 06:21 PM

I don't know if that is true or not, but they do have 80,000hours and 6 million miles of testing on this engine. I don't think they would have gone ahead if this engine was junk, just like so many say the 6.0 is junk. I see more of them than I do the others. It may be just me and this area, but it is true here in Wisconsin. I do statistics on them every time a take a trip up to northern Wisconsin and have over 530 log miles on every trip. The 6.4 is anybody's guess at this time. The sticker price is what gets me on these vehichles. I know I don't have that kind of jack laying around.

DarkShadowDiesel · 12-11-2006, 07:36 PM

hey i have no clue, i'm just saying that's what i was told.... who knows. like you said, its anyone's guess at this point, i really hope it works out for the better though.

jmcholden · 12-11-2006, 10:49 PM

All speculation till they get into the hands of the consumer. The 6.0L was suppost to be a gift from the truck Gods too and look at that Turd. Yes I know thier are happy 6.0L owners but lets face it that engine was not all it was suppost to be. Diesels are suppost to be reliable and for Ford sake the 6.4L better be or even the truck Gods could not help them out of a second hole.

HideOut · 12-15-2006, 09:28 PM

Ya know, that 6.0 turd...Ive been leary of gettin one to replace my 7.3 (2000) but they make tons more power for less money. They break yes, but not nearly as often as you think. I think its less than a 5% issue rate. Thats still high but even mighty mercedes benz had a 40% recall rate just a year or 2 ago...

jmcholden · 12-16-2006, 11:17 AM

It might be less than 5% issue rate now but it had to be higher for the 03-04's and Mercedes has much better customers service. I think most people are willing to put up with a few repairs now and then but to have to go back time after time for the same repair is unacceptable!

jesshwarren · 12-17-2006, 01:17 PM

It amazes me how some guys just can't wait to hear the worst. It seems like some of you want to hear a 6.4L self destruct.

I heard lots of horror stories about the dmx when it 1st came out, most all of them where false. ME! I don't believe it till I see it. Ford has done a LOT of field testing and I am sure the 6.4L will be a very dependable motor. If you want to run them in the dirt wait till you own one so you can speak 1st handed.