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Old 04-27-2007, 06:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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6.4 oil change and fikters

First I have to say thank you ford. I had a 2003 6.0 with some issues and a call to the BBB, 3 weeks and ford took my 03 and gave me an 08 for what I owed left on my 03. This new truck rocks. The questions I have are 1> has anybody had their dealer tell them that the oil changes could only be done by them (ford) 2> are the fuel and oil filters the same for the 6.0 and the 6.4 ? I used to change the oil and filters my self and probably still will. Thanks for any input. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img]
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Re: 6.4 oil change and fikters

I don't have any info for you, but you are one lucky SOB! I plan to trade my '05 in, and I expect a serious kick in the pocketbook.
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Re: 6.4 oil change and fikters

Congrat's Clffhanger!,that's a sweet deal. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img]
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Re: 6.4 oil change and fikters

What's a fikter?
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Re: 6.4 oil change and fikters

Its one of the whatcha may call its screwed onto the engine.

Dealers seems to want your business pretty bad by telling you to come back for an oil change or is trying to drive a quick lube joint out of business in your town.
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Re: 6.4 oil change and fikters

Ahhhh, Kwickee-Loob. When my Dad was alive, I could always tell when he had an oil change. He'd phone asking how many grease zerks his car had... standard reply "Four, Dad... go back and get them to do the other two".

Kwickee-Loob.... yes, I want my truck serviced by an under-achiever. And sell me the wallet flush too, please.

I can't say that a poorly chosen dealer isn't going to give any better... but at least you'll have the service records if a concern arises.
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Re: 6.4 oil change and fikters

Favorite person to do my oil changes. Me! Then I know it is done right. I have total faith in the mechanics at my dealership. But the kids doing the lube and oil are no better than the guy at Lube Ex. Many times at many different dealers I have had to go back to the dealer cause I looked under the truck and their was still dirt on the T case check hole and the grease nipples were covered with dirt. Not bashing dealerships but lubey's come and go. The good ones move up fast.
However at least when some kid at ford screws up then there is no problem getting it fixed. I have had lots of mistakes made with my many trucks but all dealer sorted it out in the end. That is what matters!

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Re: 6.4 oil change and fikters

Oil filter is the same for the 6.0 and 6.4. Fuel filter is different. Make sure your oil is CJ4 rated.
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Re: 6.4 oil change and fikters

Was told by Ford that oil filter "and" fuel filter pair" are the same for 6.0 and 6.4. The difference is the air filter and the serpentine belt and that depends on the alternator option ie: heavy duty or twin alternators. Just what the dealer told me. Oil filter # FL-2016 and Fuel flter (2 required)# FD-4604. FYI.
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Was told by Ford that oil filter "and" fuel filter pair" are the same for 6.0 and 6.4. The difference is the air filter and the serpentine belt and that depends on the alternator option ie: heavy duty or twin alternators. Just what the dealer told me. Oil filter # FL-2016 and Fuel flter (2 required)# FD-4604. FYI.

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Not to be rude but you were told wrong. The fuel filter is different if memory serves me correctly it is FD4608..
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Re: 6.4 oil change and fikters

Didn't anyone read the owner guide supplement? The oil filter is now a cartridge type on top not a spin on type underneath.
Oil Filter FL-2016
Air Filter FA-1886
Fuel Filter FD-4604 (2x)
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Re: 6.4 oil change and fikters

There are 2 diff. fuel filters, the one on the frame rail is a 10 micron while the one on the motor is 4 micron. I don't know th part #'s.
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Re: 6.4 oil change and fikters

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Didn't anyone read the owner guide supplement? The oil filter is now a cartridge type on top not a spin on type underneath.


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The spin-on's down underneath went away with the end of the 7.3L's about Nov. 3rd, 2002 in the early 2003 models. The 6.0L oil filter is a cartridge type up topside.

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Re: 6.4 oil change and fikters

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Didn't anyone read the owner guide supplement? The oil filter is now a cartridge type on top not a spin on type underneath.
Oil Filter FL-2016
Air Filter FA-1886
Fuel Filter FD-4604 (2x)

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Again I am not trying to be rude but if that is what is in the owners manual then it is wrong too. I just looked it up on FMCdealer and I was off by a digit it is a FD4609 for the fuel filter.

8C3Z 9N184 A KIT - FILTER DUEL ELEMENT With Seals - 6.4L Diesel FD 4609

I have the 4609 in stock and will look at it tomorrow and see what the difference is.
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Re: 6.4 oil change and fikters

Thanks for everyones input even you traildog for catching my spelling error. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img]
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