6.4L Power Stroke Engine and DrivetrainDiscussion of the 6.4L Power Stroke diesel engine and drivetrain in the 2008 Super-Duty trucks. No gas engine discussion allowed except on transmissions and drivetrain that pertain to all models. Please confine discussion of topics in this forum to those items that are specific to the 6.4L Power Stroke engine.
After changing the oil, I read an interesting ULSD fact in the Owners manual...
Last Friday I decided it was time for my first oil change since I was near 4,000 miles...I know...I've been busy! Anyhow I perused through the manual and on page 32 of the 6.4L Diesel Engine Supplement book it reads;
"Vehicles originally sold in a ULSD fuel market that are subsequently exported to a non-ULSD fuel market will need to be retrofitted (at customers expense) in order to be reliably operated on non-ULSD fuel."
What do they do to accomplish this?
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John
2008 Job 2 F-350 4x4 Crew Cab SWB dually
Lariat with the chrome package.
Last Friday I decided it was time for my first oil change since I was near 4,000 miles...I know...I've been busy! Anyhow I perused through the manual and on page 32 of the 6.4L Diesel Engine Supplement book it reads;
"Vehicles originally sold in a ULSD fuel market that are subsequently exported to a non-ULSD fuel market will need to be retrofitted (at customers expense) in order to be reliably operated on non-ULSD fuel."
What do they do to accomplish this?
There is no way the DPF can deal with high sulfur Diesel fuel. I'm assuming that the DPF will be removed and/or bypassed and some sort of download will be done to tel the engine that there is now no DPF.
This is not new territory, years back when unleaded gas came on line cars had to be "modified" to run in countries that unleaded was not available.
The military for instance buys thousands of of power strokes and Dodges, and Durmax that are operated all over the world, do you think for a second that they don't have a plan B?
I think if you contacted Ford telling them about your assignment to Mexico working on the piping on the new hospital for the next year they might do this for you with a minor charge.
Diesel Jay???????????????
Has mentioned he saw some testing of the amount of back pressure a CLEAN DPF adds and I can't remember but is was a lot but then he also mentioned how much a loaded up DPF adds and you'd wonder how the turbos could work at all?
JAY?
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Too much junk/toys to mention, ever changing due to too getting bored too quickly. I need a 10 step program!
Want to call? I'm in the book. Want to argue....First explain the square root of negative one....lol
I've unknowingly run low sulfur diesel in my MB Sprinter van and it clogged the filter in that in two fill ups! Go to any Flying J and half their pumps are LSD fuel and I asked if it was ULSD and they said yes....but in the car lane only, the outside lanes might have LSD! When I traveled to North Carolina last summer for vacation, half the stations in the Mountains had no idea what I was talking about when I asked if they had ultra low sulfur???
I guess you can't really travel with your 2008 Ford because of availability of ULSD? I can't imagine going to Mexico with this truck.
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John
2008 Job 2 F-350 4x4 Crew Cab SWB dually
Lariat with the chrome package.
There's no such thing as LSD around here. Well, maybe, but not in pump diesel fuel....
ULSD was introduced over a year ago, and that's all they make, unless it is for farm purposes.
I called my local dealership and asked about about this yesterday.
I asked the service rep that I deal with every time I need anything fixed or done. I said "I going to take a prolonged trip to Mexico on some fishing trips and the Deisel Supplement says that I need to have my truck configured for such use." Service man said he would have to call me back. I got a call about an hour later with the information. He said he asked a couple of techs and their head diesel tech, also a special ford tech that was their to help fix a truck. I was told in short that I should leave my truck at home or the border and take something else to Mexico and that ford has nothing they can do for me.
I am going to have my sister in laws boy call a ford dealer in Monteray, Mex and see what they can do.
So what does it take to get a Mexican DPF ? A trip to Mexico I guess.
I called my local dealership and asked about about this yesterday.
I asked the service rep that I deal with every time I need anything fixed or done. I said "I going to take a prolonged trip to Mexico on some fishing trips and the Deisel Supplement says that I need to have my truck configured for such use." Service man said he would have to call me back. I got a call about an hour later with the information. He said he asked a couple of techs and their head diesel tech, also a special ford tech that was their to help fix a truck. I was told in short that I should leave my truck at home or the border and take something else to Mexico and that ford has nothing they can do for me.
I am going to have my sister in laws boy call a ford dealer in Monteray, Mex and see what they can do.
So what does it take to get a Mexican DPF ? Av trip to Mexico I guess.
How many fords do you think are used in countries that don't have ulsd?
How many military fords do you think are used overseas?
Think there is the answer OH just leave them on the ship before entering Iraq would fly for one second!
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Too much junk/toys to mention, ever changing due to too getting bored too quickly. I need a 10 step program!
Want to call? I'm in the book. Want to argue....First explain the square root of negative one....lol
I called my local dealership and asked about about this yesterday.
I asked the service rep that I deal with every time I need anything fixed or done. I said "I going to take a prolonged trip to Mexico on some fishing trips and the Deisel Supplement says that I need to have my truck configured for such use." Service man said he would have to call me back. I got a call about an hour later with the information. He said he asked a couple of techs and their head diesel tech, also a special ford tech that was their to help fix a truck. I was told in short that I should leave my truck at home or the border and take something else to Mexico and that ford has nothing they can do for me.
I am going to have my sister in laws boy call a ford dealer in Monteray, Mex and see what they can do.
So what does it take to get a Mexican DPF ? A trip to Mexico I guess.
You know it's a legitimate question and saying "leave the truck at the boarder" is not an answer. I'd ask them to rent me a truck that can drive across the boarder.
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John
2008 Job 2 F-350 4x4 Crew Cab SWB dually
Lariat with the chrome package.
I am going to have my sister in laws boy call a ford dealer in Monteray, Mex and see what they can do.
It would seem to me that without the DPF & the proper computer tunes to deal with it, a Mexican Ford dealer could sell a lot of vehicles. Maybe you should ask the dealer if he takes trade-ins, then tell him you want to buy your used Mexican tuned truck from him the next day.
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Chris
2002 F350 6 spd 3.73LS XLT Heated Seats 270,000 & counting.
It would seem to me that without the DPF & the proper computer tunes to deal with it, a Mexican Ford dealer could sell a lot of vehicles. Maybe you should ask the dealer if he takes trade-ins, then tell him you want to buy your used Mexican tuned truck from him the next day.
The truck would have to pass United States emission standards, or can not be issued a registration...
The DMV will catch this as soon as you hand them a title originated outside of the country.
Ford sold a couple of hundred F 350's and 450's to Iraq. It was delayed a bit while FMC figured what had to be done for them to run on the low grade diesel overseas. I know they came up with a solution and the engines are being "converted" on the east coast, but still can't find out exactly what the "conversion" consisted.
All the Big - 3 have the same issue, they all sell a lot of 'export" models..... I'm curious how each one is addressing the issues.
The truck would have to pass United States emission standards, or can not be issued a registration...
The DMV will catch this as soon as you hand them a title originated outside of the country.
I don't know that they do that in Florida George. We have no inspections and I 've never been asked to show anything regarding emissions while registering a vehicle.
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John
2008 Job 2 F-350 4x4 Crew Cab SWB dually
Lariat with the chrome package.
but not in pump diesel fuel....
