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Fellas, I ordered a CC, SRW, short box, auto transmission, 4x4 F250 while I was deployed and scheduled it for June 08 delivery. I have the option to change the order before the build date, and am thinking of changing to the six speed manual. It appears from forum postings that the manuals are getting better mileage. My truck will be a daily driver with very rare towing. Any advice from guys who already have their trucks would be greatly appreciated. Tony
I'd say the biggest factor besides the mileage is examining what your typical driving cycle is (mission profile) if your going to get stuck in a lot of stop and go traffic every day the auto despite the mileage is better. If you have a moderate amount if highway, average number of surface stop lights, the manual is a good choice. Personally I like my manual, but only on rare occations drive in beltway traffic where you have to clutch every five feet. If that was part of the daily ride, I'd go auto instead
I've got both an auto (99) and a stick(08). To me, the 6-speed gives you better control when towing and hauling but the auto wins for everyday driving. The mileage difference is minimum and has more to do with how heavy your foot is. I just got a steady 19mpg last week going from Huntsville AL to Fort Bragg and back. Around town I get 13-14mpg. My 99 does worst on highway but better in town. For daily driver get the auto.
SOLD: Early 99, F250, 7.3, XLT, White, CC, 4x4, Short Bed, 285x75x16 BFG AT, Manual 4x4, Ford AIS air filter, Warn Transformer Grill Guard, BTS Transmission by Brian T. 216,017 miles and still going.
1abnengr2, what RPMs are you seeing when cruising on the highway with the manual? Changing to the manual would cost me the TowCommand package, driver's memory seats, and adjustable pedals; I'm thinking hard on this one.
Thanks for the replies.
Tony
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165K miles, 12 injectors, EGR cooler, Fuel pump, 8 glow plugs, GPCM, FICM rebuilt FoMoCo engine at 150K under 7/200 warranty.
I'd rather have a 6 speed, especially when towing.
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Most valuable difference IMHO is you can't get supplimental heater with a manual (Brrrrrrrrr)
It's too bad you can't get the Rapid-Heat supplemental cab heater with the 6 speed. That is a great feature.
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Plus resale value calls for a auto.
But they cost more when you buy the truck. Plus, I've found on used trucks, a lot of people are willing to pay more to get the hard to find manual transmission trucks.
Fellas, thanks for the replies. I decided to add the tailgate step, reverse camera, and two-tone paint. I'm leaning toward the 5 speed but am still undecided - I'd really like to see some hard MPG comparison between the two. Please keep the info coming! Tony
With these NEW high tech autos out there manuals are a dinosaur.Plus resale value calls for a auto.
resale value by the book may be higher, but i can tell you from experience, a manual can fetch extra and sell fast. a manual in a ford is a rarity, when the folks who are diehard manual tranny drivers find them, they jump on them. this comes from experience, and what my friend tells me[ 25 years as a commerical ford truck salesman]. my opinion, i will take an auto for city driveing, and a stick for everything else. if ford pulls the same sh** as gm and quit's saleing manuals, i will quit buying fords. or buy one and install a manual myself!!
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I'd say the biggest factor besides the mileage is examining what your typical driving cycle is (mission profile) if your going to get stuck in a lot of stop and go traffic every day the auto despite the mileage is better. If you have a moderate amount if highway, average number of surface stop lights, the manual is a good choice. Personally I like my manual, but only on rare occations drive in beltway traffic where you have to clutch every five feet. If that was part of the daily ride, I'd go auto instead
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I love my manual, but most of my driving to work is highway, and light traffic. Heavy traffic with a manual is tiring. I really like the manual for the control I have in hills during towing.
Now, one other question: Can your significant other drive a manual? Mine can't, and its about driving me nuts, cause she thinks its too hard (the clutch). I have to take deep calming breaths at time to keep from blowing my top. Will your relationship withstand trying to teach someone else how to drive a manual?
OMC
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AnthonyB. You asked about RPMS. My 08 runs 2000 RPMs at 70MPH with 3:73 gears. The sweet spot for my best mileage is 1800rpms. The truck got 20MPH during a trip across Ark on state highways with 55-65mph speed limits (empty bed/no cargo). If I go above 70mph / 2000 RPMs the mpg really starts to drop off. Hope this helps.
SOLD: Early 99, F250, 7.3, XLT, White, CC, 4x4, Short Bed, 285x75x16 BFG AT, Manual 4x4, Ford AIS air filter, Warn Transformer Grill Guard, BTS Transmission by Brian T. 216,017 miles and still going.
I second that! I have the same package except w/ the 20" wheels. This last oil change I put in the mobile synthetic instead of Rotella. I'm seeing a steady 20 city / 23 highway. I wanted to try synthetic because I saw comparable results on the 03 Jetta TDI
Just so you are not confused. If this is a Job 3 order you can get the supplemental heat with the manual transmission. As far as choosing auto or manual it's up to you. Personally I love my 6 speed.Yeah it gets tiring in heavy traffic but I don't inch up every two seconds. I can control when to shift how I want to shift and which gear I want to pull out in, very helpful in the snow. Not only that but how many people have 125,000 miles on their original auto transmission? That's what I have on my original clutch and all associated parts. I do not tow heavy but I tow about 5000 pounds just about every weekend.
Pete
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