6.4L Power Stroke Engine and DrivetrainDiscussion of the 6.4L Power Stroke diesel engine and drivetrain in the 2008-Up Super Duty trucks. No gas engine discussion allowed except on transmissions and drivetrain that pertain to all models. Please confine discussion of topics in this forum to those items that are specific to the 6.4L Power Stroke engine.
Check my sig- same truck as yours, NEVER a problem getting a load moving. I don't experience turbo lag at all, the truck shifts smoothly, 6.0 mating with the 6-speed is no different than the 7.3 was. I just ordered my 6.4 stick- I wouldn't have it any other way.
Luke: Try idling in low on a two-lane road in stop-and-go traffic with a long line of yuppies behind you. It's priceless. The one behind you will freak out because he expects to see brake lights blinking like a strobe. The rest of them will become irate because you leave a 10 ft gap between you and the car in front of you, and he can't stand it that he may get to his destination 2 seconds later. I love it.
jpb: I just ordered my 6.4. I asked the dealer about the 3.55 changeover, he knew nothing about it. I made sure my rig is getting 3.73's.
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Red 2002 F-350 XLT SRW 4x4 7.3L reg. cab 6-speed rubber floors traded at 50K for:
Red 2005 F-350 XLT SRW 4x4 6.0L reg. cab 6-speed rubber floors BFG 12.5x35 mud-terrains, no lift traded for:
Red 2008 F-350 XLT SRW 4x4 6.4 reg. cab 6-speed. Got carpet this time- audiophile stereo deletes rubber floors. BFG 12.5x35 mud terrains, no lift.
Traded at 45K for: Red 2011 F-350 XLT SRW 4x4 6.7L reg cab BFG 12.5x35 mud terrains, no lift. "optioned" out of- stick shift, rubber floors, audiophile stereo, fog lights, chrome step bars GRRRRR!
I drove sticks for my first 18yrs and after 3yrs in an auto would never go back. Back in the days of 3and4 speed autos you where way better off with a stick. Now that Chevy has made everyone else raise the bar we have auto transmissions that can take the punishment of towing. I used to make fun of my older friends with autos, now I'm one of them.
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2008 F450 4wd crew, forest green over pueblo gold, 4.30 rear, several options, Lord help me keep my truck stock.
Yeah, I know the autos are easier to drive, and 2 of the Big 3 have very good ones, and I may go to an auto when I get older. What worries me about my stick is that I do very dangerous work, and it is very possible that I could sustain a leg injury that would preclude driving a stick. Still, especially with my current 6.0, I can get my truck off the line in a BIG hurry- it launches quickly even without revving and dumping the clutch, and, when I yank first gear from granny, my truck will squall my 35's on dry pavement. I also get immediate passing power since I can select the gear I want to pass in. As I said above, I never see turbo lag. With my experience with this engine/tranny combo, I get power right now under any conditions.
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Red 2002 F-350 XLT SRW 4x4 7.3L reg. cab 6-speed rubber floors traded at 50K for:
Red 2005 F-350 XLT SRW 4x4 6.0L reg. cab 6-speed rubber floors BFG 12.5x35 mud-terrains, no lift traded for:
Red 2008 F-350 XLT SRW 4x4 6.4 reg. cab 6-speed. Got carpet this time- audiophile stereo deletes rubber floors. BFG 12.5x35 mud terrains, no lift.
Traded at 45K for: Red 2011 F-350 XLT SRW 4x4 6.7L reg cab BFG 12.5x35 mud terrains, no lift. "optioned" out of- stick shift, rubber floors, audiophile stereo, fog lights, chrome step bars GRRRRR!
Hey I've driven sticks most of my life.But they get tiring,harder to get repaired these days because more auto's are out there.Lots of 2500/3500 trucks with 200k on a auto with no issues.Even big rigs have more autos then ever before.I DO worry about resale with a truck kinda like my home.I get what I want but I also want to keep the value of it up for as much return as possable when the time comes.The BIG three have some NICE autos these days.Better then ever and going to keep improving.Sticks are well sticks. There was a time also that autos went longer between repairs then manual shifts.That was a industary fact.Not something I'm just coming off with.I have a buddy with two Fords with the ZF tranny.One a 351 4x4 club cab 150 and the other a stake body dually with a 460.Both have less then a 150k.The 150 had trans bearings go out last year,needed overhaul,clutch,hyds etc.The 460 truck now is in the same boat,needing bearings etc.Thats NOT that many miles for somewhat cared for trucks.We live near the ZF plant and he found/was told about a ZF employee that does trannys on the side fix the first one.He'll get the dually by spring to do.
i was unaware that ford put the zf in a f150. all the ones i have been around [5spds] were mazda tranny's .
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the fleet; ferds ,02'f350,01'f450.the generals ,82'2500, 82'2500 4x4, 82' blazer, 86' blazer ,93'3500, 96'3500, and a 99' 3500hd with 12 valve cummins power. the goats, 90'd250, 91'd350 4x4, 05'3500. all are diesel powered. a list of bigger stuff, as well as gasser's, got lucky, wife comes from a family that collects junk iron too!
Friend told me it was a ZF.Said it was the same trans as in his 460 stake body.Its a 351 club cab 4x4.The gentleman he knows that works at the ZF plant did the overhaul. They are his trucks so I'm going on what he said.
Good to see other people on here that can use a stick! I am looking at ordering a new 6.4 250 FX4 CC LWB with a manual, however I can't find any pictures of what it will look like in the cab. Of course there are no dealers that have any to look at and I can't even get a straight answer as to if it is the same shift pattern as the 2002 7.3L manual. If someone on here with stick in the 2008 could send me some pictures or let me know where there are some, it would be greatly appreciated.
Fellas, thanks again for all the info. I changed the order to a manual today and added back the available components of the option packages I lost in the switch. Tony
You will lose your in-dash cup holders, and, as far as I can tell, auxiliary cab heaters won't be available, either. Those of us that prefer sticks are second-class citizens. We're expected to fall into line and get automatics, since that is what "everyone" else wants- "everyone" being Joe Yuppie. Soon you won't be able to get coffee anywhere but Starbucks, and Bud Light will be the only beer on the market.
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Red 2002 F-350 XLT SRW 4x4 7.3L reg. cab 6-speed rubber floors traded at 50K for:
Red 2005 F-350 XLT SRW 4x4 6.0L reg. cab 6-speed rubber floors BFG 12.5x35 mud-terrains, no lift traded for:
Red 2008 F-350 XLT SRW 4x4 6.4 reg. cab 6-speed. Got carpet this time- audiophile stereo deletes rubber floors. BFG 12.5x35 mud terrains, no lift.
Traded at 45K for: Red 2011 F-350 XLT SRW 4x4 6.7L reg cab BFG 12.5x35 mud terrains, no lift. "optioned" out of- stick shift, rubber floors, audiophile stereo, fog lights, chrome step bars GRRRRR!
I have a stick in my 08 for hauling heavy at low speeds on ski resort and cabin propertys. Even in 4 low an auto will heat up and die with this kind of abuse. I would use an auto if I could keep the tranny temp down below 230.
I'm sorry, but you're wrong. I just had my dealer try to change the order on my truck, and the supplemental cab heat is still not available with a stick shift.
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Red 2002 F-350 XLT SRW 4x4 7.3L reg. cab 6-speed rubber floors traded at 50K for:
Red 2005 F-350 XLT SRW 4x4 6.0L reg. cab 6-speed rubber floors BFG 12.5x35 mud-terrains, no lift traded for:
Red 2008 F-350 XLT SRW 4x4 6.4 reg. cab 6-speed. Got carpet this time- audiophile stereo deletes rubber floors. BFG 12.5x35 mud terrains, no lift.
Traded at 45K for: Red 2011 F-350 XLT SRW 4x4 6.7L reg cab BFG 12.5x35 mud terrains, no lift. "optioned" out of- stick shift, rubber floors, audiophile stereo, fog lights, chrome step bars GRRRRR!
According to the new order guide, it is available. Unless they changed it.
JOB 3 ORDER GUIDE UPDATES – Effective on all
vehicles built on or after Job 3 (01/02/08 – Subject to
change)
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The 60th Anniversary Edition (17A) is now available on XLT
SuperCab and Crew Cabs. It includes a two tone exterior paint
combination in Black with Dark Shadow Grey lower accent or
Dark Shadow Grey with Black lower accent, Chrome billet-style
grille, 5" chrome running boards, chrome exhaust tip, chrome
tow hooks and chrome pickup bed tie-down hooks, chrome
mirror caps, body color front and rear bumpers, accent color
wheel lip moldings, and unqiue 60th Anniversary Edition wheel
ornaments, box decals and badges. The Medium Stone interior
includes Sport Cloth Captain's Chairs, a leather wrapped
steering wheel, unique instrument cluster appliqué, 60th
Anniversary center console badge, serialization plate, and
more. Please see the Packaged Options page for a full list of
package contents.
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Power 4-wheel disc/4-wheel anti-lock brakes with vacuum
boost are now standard on SRW with all engines. Power 4-
wheel disc/4-wheel anti-lock brakes with hydro-boost are now
standard on DRW with all engines, included on SRW with the
Dual Alternators, and optional on SRW diesel for fleet only.
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There have been changes made to the standard and optional
axles in the Axle Availability chart. Please review the Axle
Availability chart for all axle availability changes.
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The Front License Plate Bracket is no longer standard. The
Front License (153) is available as an option on all trims and is
forced in states where required.
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The Rapid-Heat Supplemental Cab Heater (41A) is now available with manual transmission.
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The PowerScope™ Trailer Tow Mirrors (54F) are now available
on XLT Regular Cab (require the Advanced Security Group).
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A Winter Front Grille Cover is now standard and only available
with the 6.4L diesel engine in the following states: AK, CO, ID,
IA, ME, MI, MT, NH, NY, ND, SD, VT, WI, WY.
You may want to make sure your dealer has the new guide and not the Job 2 guide.
Pete
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y2k f-250, sc, 6 sp, 4x4, banks stinger and brake, bores rookie sticks, pace edwards roll top bed cover
I hope you're right. I'm going to bounce this off my dealer again to be sure. Also of concern to me is the axle changes. I don't want a 3.55 gear with my 35's.
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Red 2002 F-350 XLT SRW 4x4 7.3L reg. cab 6-speed rubber floors traded at 50K for:
Red 2005 F-350 XLT SRW 4x4 6.0L reg. cab 6-speed rubber floors BFG 12.5x35 mud-terrains, no lift traded for:
Red 2008 F-350 XLT SRW 4x4 6.4 reg. cab 6-speed. Got carpet this time- audiophile stereo deletes rubber floors. BFG 12.5x35 mud terrains, no lift.
Traded at 45K for: Red 2011 F-350 XLT SRW 4x4 6.7L reg cab BFG 12.5x35 mud terrains, no lift. "optioned" out of- stick shift, rubber floors, audiophile stereo, fog lights, chrome step bars GRRRRR!
I'm going 6 speed on my next super duty again for sure. Much to the dismay of my wife, but I have to have it. She won't drive my current truck because it's a stick, and sometimes that's a good thing, sometimes it's a bad thing, but I just love rowing through the gears. The ZF6 is easy to handle, and even in California traffic it's not too bad. As far as re-sale goes, I don't think you'll have a problem getting rid of a stick. As mentioned before, the hard core manual guys will swoop it up fast! I already have people lined up to fight for my truck when I'm ready to sell it....besides, who cares about re-sale, get what you want, not what everyone else wants....
Who are you ordering your truck from and what did they ask of you (deposit? signed agreement?)?
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