Diesel Fuel Additives?

[mbot]

Hey guys;

On my 05 Duramax, I had to run a quality diesel fuel additive (Opti-Lube) that had good lubrication properties, because the FPR was worn out from the poor lubrication that the ULSV diesel fuel provides.........

Should I run the same stuff in my PSD??

In the winter, I will run a quality anti-gelling product.......

Thanks! Ben

[fro]

Diesel Kleen has always worked good for me.

[muntu]

i use opti lube....summer blend....research showed it about top of the list in a comparison i read long time back.......and treatment is easier on the pocket book compared to others.

[mbot]

Originally Posted by muntu

i use opti lube....summer blend....research showed it about top of the list in a comparison i read long time back.......and treatment is easier on the pocket book compared to others.

OK, I will continue using it then

[NEVERSWEAT7]

I run Diesel Treat 2000 made by Schaeffer Oil. I have been using this stuff since the advent of LSD close to 5 years back. I was running it when it wasn't popular to add a supplement. I would get..." you don't need that". sometimes at fuel depots.

I have about 30 guys I supply now. I do not sell it to them, I bought it for me and like wild fire, it caught on so I figure by purchasing enough I do not have to pay shipping, I just make bigger orders. Every single person..every one of them, has seen an increase in fuel mileage. Two guys keep their own mileage charts to prove it. All the others get their mileage through on board computers or do rough calcs.

The most dramatic being over 2 MPG in the 6.0L Ford. With the Duramax and Cummins MPG varies between 1.5 and 2 some getting a little better. My 7.3L was getting about 17.5 unloaded a 1.5 MPG difference hauling, my best pulling was 12.7 MPG with 14,500 LBS 5'er up, down and around the mountains in Montana.

The beauty of this product is its lubrication properties through a nice dose of Moly. Honestly, the mileage is icing on the cake. I get to keep the injectors clean.... no gumming them up, preserving fuel over long periods of sitting, outstanding shelf life, dehydration of fuel, no engine wetstacking when idling over longer periods of time, cleaner burning fuel particulants, and a reduced to almost no smoke on hard starts off the line and burying the peddle. Oh did I mention a little HP kicker?

Suffice to say, I swear by the product.. as do over thirty others that I provide for.

[mbot]

Sweet, I might have to try that stuff~!!

Thanks for posting the info! Ben

Originally Posted by NEVERSWEAT7

I run Diesel Treat 2000 made by Schaeffer Oil. I have been using this stuff since the advent of LSD close to 5 years back. I was running it when it wasn't popular to add a supplement. I would get..." you don't need that". sometimes at fuel depots.

I have about 30 guys I supply now. I do not sell it to them, I bought it for me and like wild fire, it caught on so I figure by purchasing enough I do not have to pay shipping, I just make bigger orders. Every single person..every one of them, has seen an increase in fuel mileage. Two guys keep their own mileage charts to prove it. All the others get their mileage through on board computers or do rough calcs.

The most dramatic being over 2 MPG in the 6.0L Ford. With the Duramax and Cummins MPG varies between 1.5 and 2 some getting a little better. My 7.3L was getting about 17.5 unloaded a 1.5 MPG difference hauling, my best pulling was 12.7 MPG with 14,500 LBS 5'er up, down and around the mountains in Montana.

The beauty of this product is its lubrication properties through a nice dose of Moly. Honestly, the mileage is icing on the cake. I get to keep the injectors clean.... no gumming them up, preserving fuel over long periods of sitting, outstanding shelf life, dehydration of fuel, no engine wetstacking when idling over longer periods of time, cleaner burning fuel particulants, and a reduced to almost no smoke on hard starts off the line and burying the peddle. Oh did I mention a little HP kicker?

Suffice to say, I swear by the product.. as do over thirty others that I provide for.

[LargeCar]

Originally Posted by NEVERSWEAT7

I run Diesel Treat 2000 made by Schaeffer Oil. I have been using this stuff since the advent of LSD close to 5 years back. I was running it when it wasn't popular to add a supplement. I would get..." you don't need that". sometimes at fuel depots.

I have about 30 guys I supply now. I do not sell it to them, I bought it for me and like wild fire, it caught on so I figure by purchasing enough I do not have to pay shipping, I just make bigger orders. Every single person..every one of them, has seen an increase in fuel mileage. Two guys keep their own mileage charts to prove it. All the others get their mileage through on board computers or do rough calcs.

The most dramatic being over 2 MPG in the 6.0L Ford. With the Duramax and Cummins MPG varies between 1.5 and 2 some getting a little better. My 7.3L was getting about 17.5 unloaded a 1.5 MPG difference hauling, my best pulling was 12.7 MPG with 14,500 LBS 5'er up, down and around the mountains in Montana.

The beauty of this product is its lubrication properties through a nice dose of Moly. Honestly, the mileage is icing on the cake. I get to keep the injectors clean.... no gumming them up, preserving fuel over long periods of sitting, outstanding shelf life, dehydration of fuel, no engine wetstacking when idling over longer periods of time, cleaner burning fuel particulants, and a reduced to almost no smoke on hard starts off the line and burying the peddle. Oh did I mention a little HP kicker?

Suffice to say, I swear by the product.. as do over thirty others that I provide for.

That is pretty good stuff, if you are getting those results I would stick with it. I do use the Opti-Lube products that ranked a bit higher in the test and are a bit less per treatment (summer blend) but that is just what I have used and have a source for. If I did not have a source for the Opti-Lube I would be using the Schaeffers as well.

LC

[powerstrokin03]

i use either opti or racor

[08F450Superduty]

I am using the Diesel Treat 2000 in my 08 F450 33,000miles now, I have not seen those type of milage gains but I am getting over 1000 miles between DPF cleaning, towing or around town driving.

[Sushibar]

I have one question. How come commercial applications that burn a lot of fuel, ie say an 80ft commercial fishing/tow boat, don't use a fuel additive? I know we don't use an additive but we keep our tanks clean, our filters are checked regularly, we haven't had a fuel system related breakdown in 35,000 hrs. We use anywhere from 60000 gal to 100000 gal per season.


I think it is a waste of money except in circumstances where gelling may be an issue to aid in the help of cold starts in sub zero temps..

[LargeCar]

Originally Posted by Sushibar

I have one question. How come commercial applications that burn a lot of fuel, ie say an 80ft commercial fishing/tow boat, don't use a fuel additive? I know we don't use an additive but we keep our tanks clean, our filters are checked regularly, we haven't had a fuel system related breakdown in 35,000 hrs. We use anywhere from 60000 gal to 100000 gal per season.


I think it is a waste of money except in circumstances where gelling may be an issue to aid in the help of cold starts in sub zero temps..

Could be several things, but I am not sure. Maybe the fuel you are using (marine) is not ULSD, maybe the fuel system on the BIG engines is not effected by the loss of lubricants, and maybe because the tolerances are much bigger on your type of fuel system. Not really sure any apply but they are the first things that came to mind.

I like to have the insurance of a good fuel additive, it would take a lot of summer blend Opti-lube to make up for the cost of just one injector let alone a pump.

Diesel Power Magizine just did a test of the Opti-Lube products and said it was good stuff, don't have my copy yet but will have it soon.

My supply for Opti-Lube is Grace Distributing: Opti-Lube good people and fast shippers.

LargeCar

[Sushibar]

Here in British Columbia our refinery went straight to ULSD early on and no LSD as it was to difficult to store both and it would be all usld anyways overtime. That's what were told from the rep. We started using the ULSD when it first came out.

Like you said maybe the tolerances are greater.

[08F450Superduty]

I use the Diesel Treat 2000 mainly for the increase in cetane for which I understand the ULSD barely meets Fords spec of 40 cetane. I am getting better milage just because it keeps me out of regen longer than without it. No regen no fuel in oil.

[NEVERSWEAT7]

I was wondering about commercial fishing vessels also. A few thoughts are marine fuel is less restrictive? Marine engines designed with larger injectors than land motors? I do not have the perfect answer. Our rigs on the job use it now but they didn't for about 4 years. We were not having a ny problems with LSD then when the ULSD came out things changed a bit.. to the tune of a bunch of $$ for injectors. I work for FD with all Detroit diesels. Some injectors were failing. Not sure the reason , suspect was the fuel, but now the dept. uses a treatment. We have not had any more problems to note.

Crazy thing is I went to shop and checked out engine and size of injectors. These things are huge compaired to on our personal little rigs. Hard to believe they could clog but problems arose just the same.

I am sure there are real good numbers out for a variety of additives on the market. My stance remains as it was when I started using product. The brand is important but more important (to me) is as long as your using something, you are reducing chances of any type of engine failure.. be it injectors gumming up or DPF clogging, whatever the case may be.

I have mentioned in several posts I have written about Schaeffer products...specifically Dieseltreat how good I feel that product is. The numbers do not lie. What I use may not produce the highest numbers ( 4-5 points is what Schaeffer produces) but well above minimum standards for a supplement. Since I use their fluid exclusively, I have done a bit more research on it and through MSDS am satisfied at what I read.

I guess it is like many other truthisms... take care of your engine and it will takes care of you

[LargeCar]

Just got the Diesel Power magizine and they have a good write up on page 150, brief but good.

LargeCar