First Oil Change - Diesel Forum

BarrySmith · 10-25-2009, 07:21 PM

I just changed the oil for the first time (4900miles, 160hr.) I had a couple of thoughts I thought I would share. First, the person that designed the engine never had to change oil on it or he wouldn't have put a cartridge type filter in the middle and on top of the engine. Second, they wouldn't have put the fill tube against the fire wall knowing noone is going to buy 15 quart bottles of oil, instead they are going to buy gallon jugs (or in my case 2.5 gallon jugs in hindsight that was a mistake!). So after saying all that it still beat paying the dealer $100 to do it. It had 15qts. so no fuel in oil unless it used oil?

**dieselmankane** · 10-25-2009, 07:30 PM

Really? I like the fact that the filter is on top. For me it is easier than dealing with the standard type filter underneath like most vehicles. Did you notice any break-in metals on the drain plug?

Stymie · 10-25-2009, 08:03 PM

i agree, just put a little pan on the engine, 36mm socket to loosen the lid, and lift it out and set it in the pan. and with a small yellow funnel and the 1 gallon(or 5qt motorcraft) jugs, its was easy as pie to change mine. other than the cost this is my favorite rig to change oil on.

NEVERSWEAT7 · 10-25-2009, 08:21 PM

as I continue on a fact finding mission, I was talking with two gents ( who were first talking amongst themselves before I arrived) about their new 2009 F-350's...one dually one SRW. First and foremost, they have had zero problems and absolutely love their trucks. Oh yeah, both are KRs.. that is how they ended up chatting in a grocery store parking lot.

Both stated that they paid for a contract which costs around 2450.00-2500.00 for 100K worth of oil changes and a warranty built into maintenance program. I have never heard of such a cool thing.

Then the topic went to how often the oil is changed out. Their response which caught me well off guard........according to Ford where they take their trucks, 10K miles per change! That would be my changes on my 7.3L running Schaeffer 9000 full synthetic. They both said they were running F synthetic.

I asked what about re-gens, fuel dumps, and the DPF? The response " well I know it happens to clean a filter but our trucks don't miss a beat ( both trucks have over 20K on them). MPG is about 14-15 all around average. They don't loose power and yes both guys recognize the warning light on the dash. No biggy, they love them.

Somebody, anybody.. bite on this.

I am calling Bobby Williams and asking about the oil changes /warranty inclusion program and if I can have that transferred to my city. I am looking at the 75K extended warranty for its price and practicality. I will visit something different down the road.

Don't get me wrong.. there should not be issues. I am trying to compile any and everything for the future, use this as a mental slideshow and carry on. I am noticing there are no concrete sequencial problems or issues that come with these trucks..aka baggage.

This news makes me even more happy!

Stymie · 10-25-2009, 09:53 PM

by fords manual(the owners manual that your truck came with) 10k is normal, and 5k is extreme service. i change mine at 5-7

NEVERSWEAT7 · 10-25-2009, 10:09 PM

one guy did mention that in his manual..thank you

SFC1984 · 10-25-2009, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by NEVERSWEAT7

as I continue on a fact finding mission, I was talking with two gents ( who were first talking amongst themselves before I arrived) about their new 2009 F-350's...one dually one SRW. First and foremost, they have had zero problems and absolutely love their trucks. Oh yeah, both are KRs.. that is how they ended up chatting in a grocery store parking lot.

Both stated that they paid for a contract which costs around 2450.00-2500.00 for 100K worth of oil changes and a warranty built into maintenance program. I have never heard of such a cool thing.

Then the topic went to how often the oil is changed out. Their response which caught me well off guard........according to Ford where they take their trucks, 10K miles per change! That would be my changes on my 7.3L running Schaeffer 9000 full synthetic. They both said they were running F synthetic.

I asked what about re-gens, fuel dumps, and the DPF? The response " well I know it happens to clean a filter but our trucks don't miss a beat ( both trucks have over 20K on them). MPG is about 14-15 all around average. They don't loose power and yes both guys recognize the warning light on the dash. No biggy, they love them.

Somebody, anybody.. bite on this.

I am calling Bobby Williams and asking about the oil changes /warranty inclusion program and if I can have that transferred to my city. I am looking at the 75K extended warranty for its price and practicality. I will visit something different down the road.

Don't get me wrong.. there should not be issues. I am trying to compile any and everything for the future, use this as a mental slideshow and carry on. I am noticing there are no concrete sequencial problems or issues that come with these trucks..aka baggage.

This news makes me even more happy!

Same with ours exactly. No loss of power, never misses a beat, you hardly know it happens unless you happen to look down and catch the message. And our 350 gets about the same mileage theirs do, and about 12-13 towing.

NEVERSWEAT7 · 10-25-2009, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SFC1984

Same with ours exactly. No loss of power, never misses a beat, you hardly know it happens unless you happen to look down and catch the message. And our 350 gets about the same mileage theirs do, and about 12-13 towing.

very good info SFC.. appreciate it.

guardrail22 · 10-26-2009, 11:22 AM

mine has an audibly different tone under throttle when regen mode is active and "never miss a beat" doesn't apply when towing up hill during regen.

NEVERSWEAT7 · 10-26-2009, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by guardrail22

mine has an audibly different tone under throttle when regen mode is active and "never miss a beat" doesn't apply when towing up hill during regen.

that is what many have said here. I am wondering if those who do not notice are running empty or packed fairly light, or light enough to not have the engine labor.
I met up with a guy in Tahoe last year who also said it was awesome all the way around. He was pulling a pretty heavy much later model Airstream.. around 11200 lbs.

no mention of any re-gens on a March 09 build.

senix · 10-26-2009, 01:24 PM

mine has no loss of power, towing or not, regen or not. I just drive it. I use the 5K interval. Mine does not make oil either. 24K on it.

jsmichael · 10-26-2009, 01:36 PM

Even if you change your oil every 5K miles, it might not hurt to get an oil analysis done to find out if your oil is too diluted with fuel or showing signs of coolant leakage.

frank404 · 10-26-2009, 03:10 PM

Not to change the subject, but, where is a good place to get your fuel filters?

Stymie · 10-26-2009, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by frank404

Not to change the subject, but, where is a good place to get your fuel filters?

Ford 6.4 Liter Turbo Diesel Motorcraft FD-4609 Fuel/Water Seperator Filters(FD4609): Pick Up & Excursion

Rotorfixer · 10-28-2009, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by NEVERSWEAT7

that is what many have said here. I am wondering if those who do not notice are running empty or packed fairly light, or light enough to not have the engine labor.
I met up with a guy in Tahoe last year who also said it was awesome all the way around. He was pulling a pretty heavy much later model Airstream.. around 11200 lbs.

no mention of any re-gens on a March 09 build.

There is a new re-flash out, my '09 just got it. It completely changes how the regen feels, can't notice anymore, it used to be really annoying (on the highway my wife would say that the engine sounds "like a fat kid running" lol.