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[parcours]

Recently posted on Ford Doctors:

http://www.forddoctorsdts.com/public..._QRG102907.pdf

Question: my message center has never indicated DPF cleaning required or yet, DPF cleaning...

Has anyone seen this message?

[KINGTUT]

To my knowledge there is no in dash notification of the regen process. I can't understand why, but maybe it is so unpredictable as to when and where it will happen they did not want to "trouble" drivers that it was occurring. I personally would like an indicator that told me that the regen process was "in process".

[parcours]

Nothing in the owners manual to indicate "regen" in process or required.

[KINGTUT]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: parcours</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nothing in the owners manual to indicate "regen" in process or required.

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I don't have the owners manual, but I can tell you your truck will regen, and when and where it happens is all up to the cyberspace in your trucks computer.......I think in time they, all of the manufacturers I mean, will get this process a little more "user friendly", but for now it is a whodunnit and where.......

[Ol Forder]

To me, it makes sense to inform the driver. My guess is that at first, Ford planned active regenerations to occur just like any other engine function that does not normally require operator intervention. It was the same as piston 1 firing; why inform the driver, right? Well, didn't work that way. Too many people complaining too many times about regens in general; loss of power, regen starting at the time you're ready to shut down, etc. So Ford now is playing it's cards face-up, I guess so that owner's will be more intelligent about when their vehicles are going through a regen. As the literature says, speed should be maintained during a regen, which may have not been possible if the driver was jamming excessively or otherwise in la-la land in general.

My '08 has not arrived yet, but if Ford calls me for my vote, I want to know when mine is regening. Maybe that way I can pull up next to my bosses *#@& Chevy and melt his bumper.

[KINGTUT]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: OlForder</div><div class="ubbcode-body">To me, it makes sense to inform the driver. My guess is that at first, Ford planned active regenerations to occur just like any other engine function that does not normally require operator intervention. It was the same as piston 1 firing; why inform the driver, right? Well, didn't work that way. Too many people complaining too many times about regens in general; loss of power, regen starting at the time you're ready to shut down, etc. So Ford now is playing it's cards face-up, I guess so that owner's will be more intelligent about when their vehicles are going through a regen. As the literature says, speed should be maintained during a regen, which may have not been possible if the driver was jamming excessively or otherwise in la-la land in general.

My '08 has not arrived yet, but if Ford calls me for my vote, I want to know when mine is regening. Maybe that way I can pull up next to my bosses *#@& Chevy and melt his bumper. </div></div>

Don't melt his bumper, it will only lessen the weight of the vehicle so when he takes you out red light to red light, you will only be further embarrassed.............. [img]/forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif[/img]

[JESSE 1]

The way I read it, you will only get the message when the DPF is full of soot and has not been able to do a regeneration. I can see it happening if you're doing a lot of idling or slow driving. If you're hitting the brakes often it will stop a regeneration. When the computer senses too much backpressure it will show the message and instruct you to drive long enough to complete a regeneration or have the DPF serviced.

I have 1500 miles on my truck and I've never known when it had a regeneration. Tailpipe is clean. I do mostly interstate driving.

[Ol Forder]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JESSE 1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The way I read it, you will only get the message when the DPF is full of soot and has not been able to do a regeneration...</div></div>

Not from my 1st read. After the 2nd read, I'm not so sure. Read this part:
"When the engine control module detects that the DPF is nearly full of particulates and that the vehicle is not being operated in a manner to allow effective automatic cleaning, the Message Center (located in the instrument cluster) will display several messages guiding the vehicle operator to drive to clean the DPF. If the vehicle is operated in a manner to allow effective automatic cleaning, the Message Center will display “Cleaning Exhaust Filter”, which is the normal regeneration process."

Sounds to me like Ford plans to tell you when a regen is going to happen, when it is happening and when it has completed.

[KINGTUT]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: OlForder</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JESSE 1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The way I read it, you will only get the message when the DPF is full of soot and has not been able to do a regeneration...</div></div>

Not from my 1st read. After the 2nd read, I'm not so sure. Read this part:
"When the engine control module detects that the DPF is nearly full of particulates and that the vehicle is not being operated in a manner to allow effective automatic cleaning, the Message Center (located in the instrument cluster) will display several messages guiding the vehicle operator to drive to clean the DPF. If the vehicle is operated in a manner to allow effective automatic cleaning, the Message Center will display “Cleaning Exhaust Filter”, which is the normal regeneration process."

Sounds to me like Ford plans to tell you when a regen is going to happen, when it is happening and when it has completed. </div></div>
Huh, need to hear from owners that have seen that message........weird

[JESSE 1]

Maybe this regen message is something new. Could be something added with a flash or starting with the Job 3 trucks?

[torino73]

OK, he might beat a Ford to the next light. However, the melting of a bumper isn't necessary to reduce the weight of the Chevy, since there's not a heavy-duty frame or suspension under it to begin with- maybe that's why they are better at the drag strip and nowhere near the hauling and towing capacity of the Ford. I've said it before, and I'll say it again- If you put a fast motor in a piece of crap, what you have is a fast piece of crap. Nothing more, nothing less.

[torino73]

I was intrigued by the part where they say you should drive your truck under 2000 rpm to improve mileage. I don't own a 6.4 yet, but it is my understanding that the 6.0 will clog up the egr if driven constantly at grandpa speeds. I have 42K on mine, and I have never had a problem because I tach it up regularly in an effort to keep it "aired out." Has there been some sort of improvement on the egr system on the 6.4 to keep this from happening, or are we getting some bad advice from the mfgr here?

[Racinpony]

Jesse1 is correct, this is something that was done to the Job 2 trucks and can be added with an update of the PCM and IC programs.

[jimmy]

that statement doesn't say it is going to display that message every time. I get that it will display when you are NOT driving in a way to clean DPF and that will indicate when the process starts when your driving style has changed and allows it to start.

[My427stang]

My Job 2 truck hasnt shown the message, and its regenned about 3 times that I know of.

I read it as a "last ditch message" to get you out on the highway, but I dont know, just how I interpret the cut and paste above