Ford Diesel Forum / Powerstroke Forum Ford Diesel Forum / Powerstroke Forum
   
Go Back   Diesel Forum - The Diesel Stop.com > 2008-Up Super Duties > 6.4L Power Stroke Engine and Drivetrain
Register Home Forum Active Topics Gallery Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

6.4L Power Stroke Engine and Drivetrain Discussion of the 6.4L Power Stroke diesel engine and drivetrain in the 2008 Super-Duty trucks. No gas engine discussion allowed except on transmissions and drivetrain that pertain to all models. Please confine discussion of topics in this forum to those items that are specific to the 6.4L Power Stroke engine.

       
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-17-2006, 11:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 2
iTrader: (0)
My Photos: (0)
Propane void warranty?

I've been reading about modding the new trucks and it seems as though Ford can tell if you add a chip or programmer and will void the warranty. Will propane void the warranty? Tx.
downtownbrown is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 12-18-2006, 12:03 AM   #2 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Joliet, IL
Posts: 441
iTrader: (0)
My Photos: (0)
Re: Propane void warranty?

is this a real question???
WhiteDuallyIL is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2006, 07:48 AM   #3 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
mudguppy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Greenville, SC
Posts: 996
iTrader: (0)
My Photos: (12)
Re: Propane void warranty?

Gee, way to welcome someone to the site, 'Dually. i'm sure you've never posted anything on here that someone else thought was silly. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img]

anyway, i just wanted to welcome you to the site, 'brown. i don't have a definitive answer for you, but i'm sure it is going to be "yes." but i just wanted to say hey to let you know that not everyone here is as rude as the previous poster. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img]
__________________
Travis

'03 F350 Dually, 6.0, Supercab, longbed, 4.10 LS, sport pkg, extremely RED, STRAIGHT PIPED, SCT Xcalibrator, full guages
- Job1 programming, Harpooned, Skweeker Mod, Zoodad Mod
- Did that thing that you're not supposed to talk about

'79 Bronco, 468cid Ford 460 marine motor, C6/NP205

Previous -'99 F250, Rg Cab XLT, 7.3/6spd, 3.73

Project truck
- '96 Cummins, 215hp/5spd, Diprocol guages, Plate & AFC full fwd, hi-capacity external lubrication system
To add: 2 1/2T axles, 46" goodyears, etc.
mudguppy is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2006, 07:52 AM   #4 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Arizona
Posts: 2,726
iTrader: (0)
My Photos: (1)
Re: Propane void warranty?

Any modification that increases the engine's output has the potential to damage it or something downstream of it, and none of that damage would be covered by warranty.

The warranty is to fix things that are caused by problems caused by the manufacturer. If the owner increases the engine's outpu, why would damage caused by the increase be covered by warranty?
Casey_1 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2006, 09:53 AM   #5 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
JimmyDee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: West Michigan Lower Peninsula
Posts: 5,372
iTrader: (0)
My Photos: (24)
Re: Propane void warranty?

They may even void the entire warranty even though the propane may not have caused the problem.
Jim
__________________
2001, F250 4x4, CC, Auto; Mobil 1 in transfer case&Trans.; Frantz Bypass Filter; "Hutch" fuel mods; Sonnax/Tricum mod; 4" Exhaust, 30" MagnaFlow; Attitude in A-Pillar and tranny gauge in Dash; AIS; EASE Diagnostics; Reese Slider Hitch; Fr Rotors, Cryo Treated&Slotted by ART.
JimmyDee is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2006, 10:13 AM   #6 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
AllOutFirefighter13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Good Ole Needville, TX
Posts: 935
iTrader: (0)
My Photos: (4)
Re: Propane void warranty?

<font color="blue"> downtownbrown ,Since propane is injected and doesn't change anything within the computer, the technician would have to become a detective to find out if you've used any type of modification to your truck. But keep this in mind...there will be SOME way of telling if a power adder was used or not. Could be as simple as seeing evidence of where the nozzle that injects it is located to certain wear characteristics that propane may cause within the engine. I would say that given the warranty history of the 6.0L, there will NO margin of error when it comes to suspecting "foul play". This alone will not stop people from modding their trucks, but if your gonna play, then be ready to pay!

Later, </font>
__________________
Joey

* '04 F250 XCab LWB 4X4 w/ FX4 *
* TorqShift *
* Manual 4WD *
* Carpet Delete *
* No. 2 ONLY *
* High-Idle Mod *
* Fumoto Valve *
AllOutFirefighter13 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2006, 12:17 PM   #7 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Elkton, Maryland
Posts: 1,169
iTrader: (0)
My Photos: (0)
Re: Propane void warranty?

[ QUOTE ]
Gee, way to welcome someone to the site, 'Dually. i'm sure you've never posted anything on here that someone else thought was silly. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img]



[/ QUOTE ]

[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smokin.gif[/img]
__________________
2001 F250 Platinum Edition
Hybrids, 38R, Studs, Springs, Forged, etc...
12 second crew cab
Maintain is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2006, 12:46 PM   #8 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Metro Detroit
Posts: 1,200
iTrader: (0)
My Photos: (0)
Re: Propane void warranty?

I run propane and when I HAD a warranty issue with drivetrain I would take it off.AS for warranty work on my auto lights and door latches etc. I just left it on.I did however ALWAYS program truck back to stock when going for any service.I only had a CPS issue and 1transmission in 85k miles other than that it was just minor stuff(interior).Propane is easy to install and even easier to remove,but with a brand new 6.4 you may be doing that more often than I was. I would overall say YES propane will void the warranty if you have a weenie at the dealership trying to make things difficult,but they still get reimbursed for warranty work by Ford so why not just shut up and fix my tail light or in your case maybe a ...?????
__________________
'02 Black F-350srw Lariat. 7.3/CC/SB/OR. TN .84 w/Hi-flow outlet,Non-EBP ped,BWD coated/bellowed up-pipes,D.P.F5(stock,Hi-idle,60tow,80econo,120race),4" SS Magnaflow,BDS stabilizers ,Fluidampr,AFE Stage2w/PG7&pre-filter,Spearco 6.0 IC,Sonnax,FT T/C,PML pan,6.0 cooler,HPOX,Airdog,ITP reg.return,MAP Maximizer,8 spring front, BFG 315/75/16 AT's,DTS 4.56LS gears,untrue Truspeed,Mag-Hytec cover,Dieselsite SS ESOF lines,coolant filter,203* stat w/billet&Fleetrite,Optix fuel on column,Ultra-Lite trans,pyro,boost on pillar.All fluids Mobil1,Energy polys,Centramatic,Fumoto,Billet,Line-X,Husky box,Extang,EGR,Alpine,Viper,Dynamat,Sirius,PIAA,Hu sky-Liner,Bilsteins. Door ding,overhead console,Snowman,Zoodad,Harpoon,AIH,Marinco,CCV,foi l mods.
ELLIOT02 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2006, 01:10 PM   #9 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Washington State
Posts: 214
iTrader: (0)
My Photos: (0)
Re: Propane void warranty?

[ QUOTE ]
I run propane and when I HAD a warranty issue with drivetrain I would take it off.AS for warranty work on my auto lights and door latches etc. I just left it on.I did however ALWAYS program truck back to stock when going for any service.I only had a CPS issue and 1transmission in 85k miles other than that it was just minor stuff(interior).Propane is easy to install and even easier to remove,but with a brand new 6.4 you may be doing that more often than I was. I would overall say YES propane will void the warranty if you have a weenie at the dealership trying to make things difficult,but they still get reimbursed for warranty work by Ford so why not just shut up and fix my tail light or in your case maybe a ...?????

[/ QUOTE ]

What you describe sounds incredibly DISHONEST to me. Too bad Ford didn't catch you on the transmission. No wonder trucks cost $50K nowdays. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]
__________________
2002 F350 XLT Supercab 8' Bed, Single Rear Wheel, 6 Speed Trans, Firestone Ride Rites, Superhitch, Tork Lift Camper Tie-Downs, Custom Built Aluminum Headache Rack, Pro-Tech Tool Box, 295/70R17 Toyos on Allieds, Bilsteins, Tuff Country 3.5" Kit, Gauges, Banks PowerPack, AFE intake w/ ProGuard 7
Wiley75 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2006, 01:30 PM   #10 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Lake Ozark, MO
Posts: 626
iTrader: (0)
My Photos: (0)
Re: Propane void warranty?

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I run propane and when I HAD a warranty issue with drivetrain I would take it off.AS for warranty work on my auto lights and door latches etc. I just left it on.I did however ALWAYS program truck back to stock when going for any service.I only had a CPS issue and 1transmission in 85k miles other than that it was just minor stuff(interior).Propane is easy to install and even easier to remove,but with a brand new 6.4 you may be doing that more often than I was. I would overall say YES propane will void the warranty if you have a weenie at the dealership trying to make things difficult,but they still get reimbursed for warranty work by Ford so why not just shut up and fix my tail light or in your case maybe a ...?????

[/ QUOTE ]

What you describe sounds incredibly DISHONEST to me. Too bad Ford didn't catch you on the transmission. No wonder trucks cost $50K nowdays. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

I disagree. Ford screws us on the price of these vehicles. Ford would not lower the price on them even if there were no mods. I hope you never get caught and I hope ppl keep adding those mods. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
__________________
2004 F250 Lariat 6.0 PSD Automatic, Blue, Supercab, 4x4, 4" Magnaflow Exhaust from the Turbo back
mlhaynes8302 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2006, 01:42 PM   #11 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
AllOutFirefighter13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Good Ole Needville, TX
Posts: 935
iTrader: (0)
My Photos: (4)
Re: Propane void warranty?

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I run propane and when I HAD a warranty issue with drivetrain I would take it off.AS for warranty work on my auto lights and door latches etc. I just left it on.I did however ALWAYS program truck back to stock when going for any service.I only had a CPS issue and 1transmission in 85k miles other than that it was just minor stuff(interior).Propane is easy to install and even easier to remove,but with a brand new 6.4 you may be doing that more often than I was. I would overall say YES propane will void the warranty if you have a weenie at the dealership trying to make things difficult,but they still get reimbursed for warranty work by Ford so why not just shut up and fix my tail light or in your case maybe a ...?????

[/ QUOTE ]

What you describe sounds incredibly DISHONEST to me. Too bad Ford didn't catch you on the transmission. No wonder trucks cost $50K nowdays. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

<font color="blue"> I'll second that...And what really baffles me is why there are some that think these trucks should be bullet-proof and able to take anything you can throw at it. From things I've seen posted here, I'd say they do a darn good job of taking what we throw at them.

Later, </font>
__________________
Joey

* '04 F250 XCab LWB 4X4 w/ FX4 *
* TorqShift *
* Manual 4WD *
* Carpet Delete *
* No. 2 ONLY *
* High-Idle Mod *
* Fumoto Valve *
AllOutFirefighter13 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2006, 01:46 PM   #12 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Southern Maryland
Posts: 1,632
iTrader: (0)
My Photos: (0)
Re: Propane void warranty?

Wiley, pretty damn sad, isn't it. Like many others in this country, people are not taking responsibility for their actions. You are right, it is plain dishonesty. Nothing different than being a common criminal, they are stealing from the manufacturer. Manufacturer passes along these costs to the consumer. I never felt Ford stole from me. They sold me an excellant truck, it does what it is designed to do, quality and reliability have been great. I paid $37,000 for a truck stickered at $46,000, I sure ain't crying. I did install some aftermarket floor mats. I will be selling it this spring only to buy another Ford truck, a F450-550 this time.
__________________
2008 F-450 Lariat Dark Stone Metallic over Pueblo Gold 4x4(manual shift transfer case, manual hubs), High capacity tow 4:88s, Off Road, Camper packages, Sirius Sat, Upfitter switches, DVD entertainment, tailgate step, traction control, Audiophile 6-disc, PTC Supplemental heat and heated seats(warm buns), rear sensors, traction control, tailgate step. Built May 8, delivered May 24
Reese Signature Series 24k fiver hitch, I installed it myself, best hitch I have found yet
Line-X bedliner, heavy duty floor mats
2003 Sunline F281SR(weekend getaways)
SeaRay 215EC
http://community.webshots.com/user/C...host=community
CaptSkup is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2006, 03:22 PM   #13 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Louisville KY, USA
Posts: 332
iTrader: (0)
My Photos: (0)
Re: Propane void warranty?

You can chipit, program it , or mod it--but if you break it because of it its yur baby. I dont think a 200 dollar mod is worth the risk to a 7 thousand dollar engine.
__________________
2004 Ford F150 Super Crew
Vehicle Assembly Tech at
Ford Kentucky Truck Plant
HOME OF THE SUPER DUTY
fordKTPguy is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2006, 03:45 PM   #14 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Northern Nevada
Posts: 1,268
iTrader: (0)
My Photos: (0)
Re: Propane void warranty?

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I run propane and when I HAD a warranty issue with drivetrain I would take it off.AS for warranty work on my auto lights and door latches etc. I just left it on.I did however ALWAYS program truck back to stock when going for any service.I only had a CPS issue and 1transmission in 85k miles other than that it was just minor stuff(interior).Propane is easy to install and even easier to remove,but with a brand new 6.4 you may be doing that more often than I was. I would overall say YES propane will void the warranty if you have a weenie at the dealership trying to make things difficult,but they still get reimbursed for warranty work by Ford so why not just shut up and fix my tail light or in your case maybe a ...?????

[/ QUOTE ]

What you describe sounds incredibly DISHONEST to me. Too bad Ford didn't catch you on the transmission. No wonder trucks cost $50K nowdays. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

I disagree. Ford screws us on the price of these vehicles. Ford would not lower the price on them even if there were no mods. I hope you never get caught and I hope ppl keep adding those mods. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

Hmmm, if people didnt mod em and cover up the fact and expect Ford to fix them maybe the prices wouldnt be so high???? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]
__________________
Sold 7/02/01 2000 F350 XLT CC, 4x4 3.73 LS, Off Road Camper. graphite int, 6 spd. Ox.White, J&J Grill & lighted boards, 10k FEY Drop bumper,(Centurion conversion) 12k Reese receiver. 285's. Duke's Springsteen. (DAC3)
Need me a 7.3 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-18-2006, 03:46 PM   #15 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Lake Ozark, MO
Posts: 626
iTrader: (0)
My Photos: (0)
Re: Propane void warranty?

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I run propane and when I HAD a warranty issue with drivetrain I would take it off.AS for warranty work on my auto lights and door latches etc. I just left it on.I did however ALWAYS program truck back to stock when going for any service.I only had a CPS issue and 1transmission in 85k miles other than that it was just minor stuff(interior).Propane is easy to install and even easier to remove,but with a brand new 6.4 you may be doing that more often than I was. I would overall say YES propane will void the warranty if you have a weenie at the dealership trying to make things difficult,but they still get reimbursed for warranty work by Ford so why not just shut up and fix my tail light or in your case maybe a ...?????

[/ QUOTE ]

What you describe sounds incredibly DISHONEST to me. Too bad Ford didn't catch you on the transmission. No wonder trucks cost $50K nowdays. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

I disagree. Ford screws us on the price of these vehicles. Ford would not lower the price on them even if there were no mods. I hope you never get caught and I hope ppl keep adding those mods. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

Hmmm, if people didnt mod em and cover up the fact and expect Ford to fix them maybe the prices wouldnt be so high???? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

My Bet is not.
__________________
2004 F250 Lariat 6.0 PSD Automatic, Blue, Supercab, 4x4, 4" Magnaflow Exhaust from the Turbo back
mlhaynes8302 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Diesel Forum - The Diesel Stop.com > 2008-Up Super Duties > 6.4L Power Stroke Engine and Drivetrain



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On