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Old 10-10-2006, 07:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Timing Gears

Idk if anyone else has noticed that it appears that the timing gears on the 6.4 are on the flexplate end, as in the back of the motor too. I dont have a picture but a link and some directions to a picture. go to this link and at the top click on the POWER tab, then on the circle under the "T" in Super Duty on the hood. tell me what you see.

http://www.fordvehicles.com/Trucks/2008superduty/
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Re: Timing Gears

Same as they were on the 6.0L....

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Re: Timing Gears

yeah i wasnt a fan of it on the 6.0 either. oh well, i wish Navistar would've not done that.
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Re: Timing Gears

No question when looking at it, it gives you the cold shudders. Kind of like seeing the distributor jammed against the firewall on an old Chevy. You just know that's a bad idea. But to my knowledge, those parts are about the most bulletproof on the engine! On the 7.3L too! Has anyone ever had timing gear issues on a Powerstroke of any vintage? It's not like a stupid timing belt design where you have to go in there every 60K miles and replace the thing. That setup seems built for the life of the engine.

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Re: Timing Gears

I just cant get to it back there I guess, but your right its pretty close to bulletpoof, so i shouldnt have to i suppose. but like you said it just seems like a problem in waiting. But maybe not, hopefully itll be bulletproof on this engine too.
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Re: Timing Gears

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i wish Navistar would've not done that.

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What do you know that Navistar does not?
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Re: Timing Gears

i know that if i wanted to get to it i couldnt, not from the front atleast
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Re: Timing Gears

It was moved to the rear to cut down on noise they said at one of the rallies.
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interesting, i figured it was to make a do it yourselfer go crazy.
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Re: Timing Gears

My old 71 Scout had about 450,000 miles on the original motor. Was rebuilt once sometime, but the timing gears were still original.

I doubt I will ever need to mess with my 6.0 either.
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Re: Timing Gears

Timing gears would be least among some worries about this engine. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]
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Re: Timing Gears

The crank winds up and unwinds to some degree on firing pulses due to the massive damping on flywheel end and the much reduced damping of this torsion on front end. If you move timing gears to flywheel end you get a much smoother and less mechanically stressful cam drivetrain that also reduces noises associated with the crank twisting.
Commercial diesels are going this was as they re-design them.
On diesels with gear to gear cam/accessory drivetrain, the need for service is nil. If the drive case is sealed well it would not be something to worry about.
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Re: Timing Gears

well maybe it is better this way.
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