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Gooch... yes you do.... Without a document that "authorizes" a reflash, Ford will not pay.... Gee... how would I know that???? By not getting paid, I guess....
If you're not getting paid it's because you're reflashing without a legitimate reason. You need to be smart enough to look beyond that little piece of paper that says "TSB" on it. Customer concerns, warranty concerns, etc. generate TSB's. And those verified customer concerns are what you get paid for, not the fact you simply have a TSB. Otherwise Ford would allow you to perform every TSB on every effected vehilce you see. But they don't...you have to have a customer concern. The TSB is just a guide explaining the issue, along with procedure, updated parts, etc. for doing the repair. Bottom line...You get paid, not because you have a TSB, but because the customer has a verified concern. And without the customer, you don't get paid. In fact you don't have a job.
But really, as far as you getting paid....who gives a rat's ars. That's your problem. Cry to someone who cares. The customer just wants his truck fixed, per his binding warranty agreement with Ford. That's your job. Don't like it?..Can't do it?...quit.
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Nice to see you back... even if you are still on your vendetta...
Obviously I never left. And what you see as a "vendetta" is nothing more than me pointing out your demoralizing idiocy that you project toward others to cover up your own insecurities. Most of us realize you constantly try to prove and be something you're not.
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FWIW... I am the way I am.... if you don't like me then don't read me.... I earn my money in the retail world.... My customers live and work in the Alberta oil patch....
...Thats nice...whatever the point is....
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I'd love to have a cushy job skimming the government fleets...
I assume you're referring to, and sarcastically demoralizing, my fleet experience. You obviously have no clue. It was not a government fleet. Not that it matters...With your attitude you still wouldn't have lasted 2 hours in my shop under my supervision. Anyone can read shop manuals, TSB's, and tell people to "suck sh!t", as you say.
Grampy, you should clean up your act and get out more. Anything worthwhile you have to say is quickly lost in the nasty mouth it comes out of.
If you're not getting paid it's because you're reflashing without a legitimate reason. You need to be smart enough to look beyond that little piece of paper that says "TSB" on it. Customer concerns, warranty concerns, etc. generate TSB's. And those verified customer concerns are what you get paid for, not the fact you simply have a TSB. Otherwise Ford would allow you to perform every TSB on every effected vehilce you see. But they don't...you have to have a customer concern. The TSB is just a guide explaining the issue, along with procedure, updated parts, etc. for doing the repair. Bottom line...You get paid, not because you have a TSB, but because the customer has a verified concern. And without the customer, you don't get paid. In fact you don't have a job.
But really, as far as you getting paid....who gives a rat's ars. That's your problem. Cry to someone who cares. The customer just wants his truck fixed, per his binding warranty agreement with Ford. That's your job. Don't like it?..Can't do it?...quit.
Obviously I never left. And what you see as a "vendetta" is nothing more than me pointing out your demoralizing idiocy that you project toward others to cover up your own insecurities. Most of us realize you constantly try to prove and be something you're not.
...Thats nice...whatever the point is....
I assume you're referring to, and sarcastically demoralizing, my fleet experience. You obviously have no clue. It was not a government fleet. Not that it matters...With your attitude you still wouldn't have lasted 2 hours in my shop under my supervision. Anyone can read shop manuals, TSB's, and tell people to "suck sh!t", as you say.
Grampy, you should clean up your act and get out more. Anything worthwhile you have to say is quickly lost in the nasty mouth it comes out of.
Gooch.... what the heck kind of a bear cave did you crawl out of but I think it's more like a bear's arse?? Your entire post is riddled with YOUR insecurities! Get a grip!
Gooch.... what the heck kind of a bear cave did you crawl out of but I think it's more like a bear's arse?? Your entire post is riddled with YOUR insecurities! Get a grip!
if you go back and read, gooch makes a pretty good point.
I noticed something yesterday. I was driving my truck, it was feeling sluggish on the highway, the meter was reading about 12.2 mpg, and then it flashed cleaning filter, after that, my power was back, and my meter began to read 14.6(average for my truck). It really is amazing what a clogged dpf will do.
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2008 Ford F-250 CC SB
Dark Pearl Blue(complete repaint under warranty)
6" Stage II Pro Comp Lift
17x9 Pro Comp 7189
37x12.5 BFG M/T KM2's Try the SEARCH Button Because It's Probably already been asked
If you're not getting paid it's because you're reflashing without a legitimate reason. You need to be smart enough to look beyond that little piece of paper that says "TSB" on it. Customer concerns, warranty concerns, etc. generate TSB's. And those verified customer concerns are what you get paid for, not the fact you simply have a TSB. Otherwise Ford would allow you to perform every TSB on every effected vehilce you see. But they don't...you have to have a customer concern. .
And I have said this in the past... but you found fault with that as well.... Bottom line, I have offered the required symptoms to be reported.... and, once again, you are busting my chops... While I haven't pored over every reply to the thread, it appears that your only input has been to reiterate that you don't like me.... a position that I am more than happy to maintain.
Grampy, be honest with yourself. What got your attention in this thread was not the question at hand, as you simply repeated what was already said by another member. No, read your first post. What got your attention was another member's comment about a dealer. And as usual, that struck a nerve with you, and you predictably jumped in and began talking down to others in your typical way, with name-calling and profanity, as some odd way to vindicate yourself.
So Grampy, you're busting your own chops. My input has been to point out your errors, along with the idiotic, demeaning comments you make. Don't like it?...Then quit crying to us about how you get paid for TSB work. I mean, who cares? Quit calling owners who have legitimate issues "wieners", and telling them to "suck sh!t". Does doing that make you feel better or something? Quit telling owners they're too damned lazy or too damned cheap. I mean, do you, as a Ford tech, have a complex or something? Quit making other Ford techs look bad, as I know they are not as repulsive as you represent. Stick to what you do best...reciting procedures and material from Ford documents. Save the talking down to others and this insatiant crusade you have to prove and defend yourself as something you're not. Can't do that?...then I'll continue to "bust your chops". Because I've been here for over 10 years and know we can do without your garbage.
I mean for Pete's sake. You agitated and aggravated this thread with everything from comments about who's time is more valuable, to shingling roofs and painting fences, to how you get paid for TSB work, to "attitudes" and "vendettas", to who your customers are, to who's a happy customer and who's not, to skimming goverment fleets, etc, etc. The off-topic drivel you use to antagonize is almost laughable. Much of it blatently breaks forum rules, and you know it.
Grampy, I don't dislike you. I (and many others here) simply dislike the garbage you post.
I stand by my comments about using a customer concern to get the TSB work done and paid.
I can guarantee you that if I take my $52K+ truck in to the dealer and the writer or tech or any other hourly employee gives me any grief like that, I will (first) politely tell them to get away from my truck as I head to another shop. If he was to tell me to suck sh!t or call me a wiener, I would pop him in the mouth!!
Mark
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Ordered 10/16 - Born 11/14 - delivered 11/26 pic
So, correct me if I am wrong. I am picking up my new '08 today, I'm guessing it is a job 3 truck (I'll check it for sure in about an hour), so I don't have a reflash available for any fuel mileage problems?
I really could give a rat's ass about fuel mileage. It will be what it is, but while it's still sitting there getting make ready, why not make sure it has all of the latest flashes and recalls taken care of. I was told that all recall notices where taken care of on Friday and Saturday. They said I couldn't take delivery of the truck until it was completed.
So, I guess what I am asking is:
1. How do I know which code I have installed?
2. Should I have the dealer go ahead and reflash a brand new truck with 12 miles on it?
You know, I posted this question back on 7-28-08 @ 8:06 AM. Since then, my question along with others have been neglected and looked over because you fellas are too freaking busy pissing in each others cereal.
This is the #1 problem with forums. Everyone gets caught up in some stupid drama and refuses to answer questions. I used to be there, just like you guys. Life's too freaking short and it really doesn't matter. Let who ever conduct their business however they see fit. I guess it's time to go to another forum that'll answer your questions.
Suggestion to admin's here. Get a "War Room" and move BS like what's going over there. It's expected in a "War Room".
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the tsb deals with two different build dates. An easy way to check and see if your truck has the newest flash is to set the cruise, then tap the brake to shut it off. Get about 8-10 below the set speed, and hit resume. if it rockets back to speed, you dont have it. Or, you can ask your dealer to reflash it.
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2008 Ford F-250 CC SB
Dark Pearl Blue(complete repaint under warranty)
6" Stage II Pro Comp Lift
17x9 Pro Comp 7189
37x12.5 BFG M/T KM2's Try the SEARCH Button Because It's Probably already been asked
the tsb deals with two different build dates. An easy way to check and see if your truck has the newest flash is to set the cruise, then tap the brake to shut it off. Get about 8-10 below the set speed, and hit resume. if it rockets back to speed, you dont have it. Or, you can ask your dealer to reflash it.
Thank you for your input. I will try it tomorrow on my way home from Louisiana.
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2008 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited, Rubicon, loaded with every available option, except GPS system, Automatic, Silver w/Black accessories, 4" Pro-Comp Stage II Suspension Lift, Pro-Comp Xtreme A/T 305/65R17's on Moto Metal 17" x 9" wheels.
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2008 Chevrolet Suburban 1500 Z-71 4x4, Black with Black leather interior, loaded with every single option available.
Just got the new flash. If the change in cruise control resume function was the only update it would be worth it. We'll see if there is any mileage increase yet to come, (highway or city).
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the tsb deals with two different build dates. An easy way to check and see if your truck has the newest flash is to set the cruise, then tap the brake to shut it off. Get about 8-10 below the set speed, and hit resume. if it rockets back to speed, you dont have it. Or, you can ask your dealer to reflash it.
Did the little check you mentioned on my way home from Louisiana, it did not "jet" back to speed. It didn't even down shift, just easily cruised back up and stayed there. So, I take it I have the latest and greatest flash. Truck runs perfectly, so there is no reason to jack with it and take a chance of screwing something up.
I now have right at 2,000 miles on the truck. Highway I'm seeing about 15 mpg and around 11 mpg city. I have the Ready Lift 2.5" kit in the front, 5.5" blocks in the rear, and BFG 35" tires. So, I'd say it's OK. I trailered my new Jeep Rubicon and took it to Houston for a 4" lift and new wheels/tires. The jeep weighs just over 4,000 lbs and the trailer maybe 3,000 lbs. The truck was very, very strong. In tow/haul the entire way and the truck never shifted out of o/d. Got 11.8 according the the computer all the way up there. Not great, but I can live with it.
I actually don't care, it is what it is, but like anyone else, I'd love to see it closer to 20 hwy and 15 city. I guess that's a pipe dream.
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2008 Ford F350, CC, LWB, Lariat, 4x4, White / Tan, Tan Interior, Loaded with no Nav or Sunroof, Front and Rear bumpers, Weather Guard Tool Box, Spray-In Bed Liner, B&W Gooseneck.
2008 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited, Rubicon, loaded with every available option, except GPS system, Automatic, Silver w/Black accessories, 4" Pro-Comp Stage II Suspension Lift, Pro-Comp Xtreme A/T 305/65R17's on Moto Metal 17" x 9" wheels.
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2008 Chevrolet Suburban 1500 Z-71 4x4, Black with Black leather interior, loaded with every single option available.
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