6.4L Power Stroke Engine and DrivetrainDiscussion of the 6.4L Power Stroke diesel engine and drivetrain in the 2008 Super-Duty trucks. No gas engine discussion allowed except on transmissions and drivetrain that pertain to all models. Please confine discussion of topics in this forum to those items that are specific to the 6.4L Power Stroke engine.
Well I can't seem to get any worse mileage then my friends 06 F-350 duelly with 4.10's. Then my 450 w/ 4.30's. I am not sure what the big Waa Waa fest is with the mileage.
15,000 miles a year @ 12 mpg @ $3.50 = $4,375/yr
15,000 miles a year @ 15 mpg @ $3.50 = $3,500/yr
A measly $875.00 bucks a year divided by 52 weeks, for a grand total of = $16.83 per week. Which is tax deductable for some.
If 17 bucks is a break point, then there may be other problems then fuel consumption.
Hey, if you like throwing extra money at the oil companies that's cool, but I don't. My gripe isn't mileage though at the moment because I drive a 7.3 that gets great mileage. I think that the cost of diesel is an absolute rip off with out a doubt, can't curb my usage though.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DragRag</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey, if you like throwing extra money at the oil companies that's cool, but I don't. My gripe isn't mileage though at the moment because I drive a 7.3 that gets great mileage. I think that the cost of diesel is an absolute rip off with out a doubt, can't curb my usage though. </div></div>
You have got to be joking. The 7.3's are now in the green vehicle class? You drive a full size truck that is one of the most poluting fuel consuming autos on the road and you think you are not using alot of oil? Compare that to my new Excape hybrid that is running mid 30's to 40 mpg around town.
What do you think I am trying to say?? All I was trying to convey is I am happy with the mileage of my 7.3l verses the 6.4. I get alot better then 12 MPG on average as stated. I could care less if it is in a green class or whatever you put it in. I am not here to tell jokes. I just stated I do not like the price of fuel right now also. I can't work from a Escape so you can drive that thing all you want. I drive a 1 ton truck because I need to, and I like it. I don't fall for the polution racket either, and go out and but hybrid vehicles that cost to much in the first place. Don't know if all of you know this, but there have been studies done that show that Hybrids from birth to the crusher actually use more energy then a chevy tahoe V-8 gas, mainly because of the manufactering processes. Hybrids make people feel good, but are no good from the point of total energy consumption when all things are considered. Lets get back on topic though.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DragRag</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I don't fall for the polution racket either, </div></div>
I dont simply swallow the media's portrayal of the whole pollution thing either, and that being said, I would also like to say that if the DPF's on the new 6.4's are failing prematurely, they could actually be (collectively) emitting more pollution than the previous geration engines, since they release a very high amount of soot (much more than 6.0's/7.3's properly maintained).
If you've ever seen a 6.4-smoker, you know how much soot those things put out if not in operational correctness. According to the EPA its small-micron soot that is the problem, hence the DPF's.
If global warming is your cup of tea, the more fuel you burn, the more C02 is released. That would make 7.3's that attain higher mileage "better" for the lesser emittance.
Its all on how you look at it, but neither the 7.3, 6.0, or 6.4 are "good" for the environment. I haven't seen any of them consuming CO2 or NOx lately. Only spewing it.
Anything that burns diesel or gas will emit something, but I find my self agreeing with some of your statments Nate. Never thought I would see the day. Far as I am conscerned though, the 7.3l is clean enough for me. Goverment like Califonia, which are always legisalting away smog do not always have it right though. MTBE is a good example of that, it pollutes our water, and causes or gasoline engines to burn more fuel. Wow what a great idea, no wonder I will be moving from here sometime in the not so distant future to a moer sensible state.
If global warming is your cup of tea, the more fuel you burn, the more C02 is released. That would make 7.3's that attain higher mileage "better" for the lesser emittance.
Its all on how you look at it, but neither the 7.3, 6.0, or 6.4 are "good" for the environment. I haven't seen any of them consuming CO2 or NOx lately. Only spewing it.
Well I for one puts on over 30K a year. And I think the thing that bothers people the most is they know it's not going to stay at 3.50 a gal..it's over that here by summer it will be 4 a gal. and will be close to 10 a gal. within a few years..
at the rates it's been jumping..
We need some leadership in this country to set a course off Dino fuels. No leadership this coming election...they just say..conserve,turn down the thermostat,etc.
My opinion is to get out of the middle east and start using the money to fund research and developement..
We can do it..We went to the moon when lot's of folks said it couldn't happen..that's the truth.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Toy_Hauler</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well I can't seem to get any worse mileage then my friends 06 F-350 duelly with 4.10's. Then my 450 w/ 4.30's. I am not sure what the big Waa Waa fest is with the mileage.
15,000 miles a year @ 12 mpg @ $3.50 = $4,375/yr
15,000 miles a year @ 15 mpg @ $3.50 = $3,500/yr
A measly $875.00 bucks a year divided by 52 weeks, for a grand total of = $16.83 per week. Which is tax deductable for some.
If 17 bucks is a break point, then there may be other problems then fuel consumption. </div></div>
Now do your math for those that drive 50-60K a year. Does that get your attention. how about for those that have 20 of them on the road. Do the math again. Adds up doesn't it.
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Well, I'm building up carbon credits while driving my new truck. The rest of you need to contact Nobel Prize winner Al Gore and see if you can purchase some carbon offsets.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: roofeditor</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Toy_Hauler</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well I can't seem to get any worse mileage then my friends 06 F-350 duelly with 4.10's. Then my 450 w/ 4.30's. I am not sure what the big Waa Waa fest is with the mileage.
15,000 miles a year @ 12 mpg @ $3.50 = $4,375/yr
15,000 miles a year @ 15 mpg @ $3.50 = $3,500/yr
A measly $875.00 bucks a year divided by 52 weeks, for a grand total of = $16.83 per week. Which is tax deductable for some.
If 17 bucks is a break point, then there may be other problems then fuel consumption. </div></div>
Now do your math for those that drive 50-60K a year. Does that get your attention. how about for those that have 20 of them on the road. Do the math again. Adds up doesn't it. </div></div>
Like it says at the top of my post there is almost zero difference in an 06 to 08 duelly truck for mileage that I have experienced. Loaded and empty. So, now I have done the math. I have subcontractors for all my work so I could care less what the sub get for mileage anyways. Thats the best kind of math.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Toy_Hauler</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have subcontractors for all my work so I could care less what the sub get for mileage anyways. Thats the best kind of math. </div></div>
Yup, just stick your head back into the sand and ignore the fact that your "subs" will be passing on the higher costs to you.....
No sand here. All but one or two have gas power. Cheaper for them to buy. But this is off point. My point is, there is little if any difference in the larger trucks for fuel mileage. Most of the poor mileage posts are from someone going from a srw 250 7.3/6.0 3.73 to a 450 w/ 4.30 or .88's and saying there is such a difference. Well check a 03-07 f-350 srw 3.73 to a 03-07 duelly 4.10 or 4.30 truck and you'll see just as big a drop in mileage.
No I don't think so, my 4.10 6.0 truck got 22 mpg at 60 mph on the freewat flat terrain. Your arguments are full of holes. Doing 75 is got 17.5 no problem, either way that is way better mileage, and the nickels add up over the fleet and life time. All I can say is you must be filthy rich if you do not care!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DragRag</div><div class="ubbcode-body">No I don't think so, my 4.10 6.0 truck got 22 mpg at 60 mph on the freewat flat terrain. Your arguments are full of holes. Doing 75 is got 17.5 no problem, either way that is way better mileage, and the nickels add up over the fleet and life time. All I can say is you must be filthy rich if you do not care! </div></div>
So you had a 6.0 350 with 4.10 and got 22mpg?? Got any swamp land for sale by chance?
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