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I currently have 03 6.0 dog............... six pages of warenty work......sick of it currently in the shop for a new injector. I am thinking of a 08 6.4....How reliable is this engine?????What arethis issues to be concerned with??I know the fuel milage is not as good..I hope to make a decision in the next few days. Any opinions would be appreciated.Jack
you've had a bad ford experience. Buy a dodge or GM.
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I currently have 03 6.0 dog............... six pages of warenty work......sick of it currently in the shop for a new injector. I am thinking of a 08 6.4....How reliable is this engine?????What arethis issues to be concerned with??I know the fuel milage is not as good..I hope to make a decision in the next few days. Any opinions would be appreciated.Jack
For starters you'll get into a better truck, at least I did! Have almost 10,000 miles on mine with 8,000 of those towing from a recent trip with no issues. In the spring the injector module went on the previous '05 6L, and with this trip on the horizon, like you I was nervous about reliability. The thing that really hurts is the bank account, and I often wonder, but at least we weren't stranded on the side of the road with a broken down 6L. The 6.4L has more power and is a towing beast, just what I wanted!!
I had a '03 6.0 with no problems, that I traded in for the '08. With over 22,250 miles on the '08, I have had no problems, and wouldn't hesitate to do it again.
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I'm still leary of all the things that can go wrong with the 6.4L My suggestion is also the V-10. You save tons on the initial price and every fill-up saves you $30 or more. The 10's are pretty much bullet proof and make good power. Check out the 08 gasser boards and everybody is very happy. Apparently you can get them to be pretty quick, pappy thinks so. The 6.2L V8 will soon take over the V-10's duty's but will apparently make more power and consume less fuel, That's what will be my driveway next. The 6.2L has been cancelled for the F-150 unfortunatly.
I'm still leary of all the things that can go wrong with the 6.4L My suggestion is also the V-10. You save tons on the initial price and every fill-up saves you $30 or more. The 10's are pretty much bullet proof and make good power. Check out the 08 gasser boards and everybody is very happy. Apparently you can get them to be pretty quick, pappy thinks so. The 6.2L V8 will soon take over the V-10's duty's but will apparently make more power and consume less fuel, That's what will be my driveway next. The 6.2L has been cancelled for the F-150 unfortunatly.
I don't see how in the world you can actually SAVE $30 or more with a gasser. I used to have BOTH a Titan and a Frontier, granted they were both heavily modified with extreme lifts, but I found myself gassing up every three or four days at about $75 a fill up--this was when gas was close to $3 a gallon. Now that I have my F250 PSD, I gas up every 18 days or so and it costs me about $180. Diesels are more efficient in every way, they just cost more INITIALLY.
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One bad truck doesn't mean the next one will be, the 6.4 is still quite new, try to hold out a while so the bugs can get worked out.
'08s have been out for about a year now. All the bugs that need to be worked out are worked out as best they can be. One bad truck is all it takes to undermine someone's confidence in the build quality of a manufacturer.
I'd recommend not buying a Ford if you've had bad experience. Because something WILL happen, however minor it is, and you'll be back here to complain about Ford when it was something that was probably not that big of a deal. This place is great if you want to rant/rave, so I don't think it matters that you'd rant if that were the case.... but still.... save yourself the hassle and buy something else.
Timid, My 6.4L barely gets any better fuel mileage than a V-10. I only get 8.5 mpg towing 6,000lbs (my 2003 F-150 got the same mileage yes, same trailer). I can't even muster 12's in the city and highways are around 15-16mpg. There is no way the diesel is worth the price if you're NOT towing heavy and often. With diesel fuel costing 70 cents more per gallon on the average, the loss of a few mpg's on the V-10 damn near make-up for it.
Let's include maintenence in the "pricing". A gasser can go 50k on a fuel filter, can't say that with a diesel, plus you need two. Air filters are changed less with a gasser, no turbo's pulling more air. Oil intervals are the same, except 6 quarts vs. 15 (big difference). No DPF's on a gasser, come 100k miles no worries. Less radiators to worry about, one less battery, etc...
Timid, My 6.4L barely gets any better fuel mileage than a V-10. I only get 8.5 mpg towing 6,000lbs (my 2003 F-150 got the same mileage yes, same trailer). I can't even muster 12's in the city and highways are around 15-16mpg. There is no way the diesel is worth the price if you're NOT towing heavy and often. With diesel fuel costing 70 cents more per gallon on the average, the loss of a few mpg's on the V-10 damn near make-up for it.
Let's include maintenence in the "pricing". A gasser can go 50k on a fuel filter, can't say that with a diesel, plus you need two. Air filters are changed less with a gasser, no turbo's pulling more air. Oil intervals are the same, except 6 quarts vs. 15 (big difference). No DPF's on a gasser, come 100k miles no worries. Less radiators to worry about, one less battery, etc...
Comparing to my old V6 and V8 (Frontier and Titan respectively), I never towed. And I still don't tow either, but am trying to make a point with fuel prices having cost me $75 a fill up every 3 or 4 days versus diesel fuel costing me $180 every 18 days or so; I easily SAVE $30 (if not more) even with the prices of diesel fuel. Without towing, like I said, I get pretty good mileage compared to my old trucks (granted they were both heavily modified). I've just come up with another good example, though. My brother owns an '01 Dodge Dakota (gasser) and he's lucky if he gets 10 MPG for some reason. Seriously these gassers suck. In all senses. Nonetheless, I'll defer to your experience as you have actually owned a V10! :-)
Maintenance costs? Well, I save by not bringing my truck to the dealership for things I can do on my own--so there's no increase in cost to me other than parts ($15 of oil every 6k versus $30 is what it is).
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