6.4L Power Stroke Engine and DrivetrainDiscussion of the 6.4L Power Stroke diesel engine and drivetrain in the 2008-Up Super Duty trucks. No gas engine discussion allowed except on transmissions and drivetrain that pertain to all models. Please confine discussion of topics in this forum to those items that are specific to the 6.4L Power Stroke engine.
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"Vans don't interest me. But hey, thanks, good to know someone is still going to have to suffer with the 6.0."
Well possibly about 10,000 fire departments, airport shuttles, emergency ambulances etc. might have just a slight interest. I guess they don't count.
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Ford will not sell a chassis for an emergency vehicle with a gas engine it. If you convert a gas powered chassis to an emergency vehicle, the warranty is void.
Like I said vans don't interest me, but I sure hope that if I need an emergency vehicle it has a Triton in it instead of a 6.0. Gives a whole new meaning to the term "dead pedal". Richard, find something else to do than pick fights with me. You are no fun anymore, way too serious and spiteful.
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2005 F-250 Torque shift, Hypermax programmer and 5" exhaust 140,000 almost trouble free miles
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I'm no 7.3 authority but I think they too had a few early years of teething problems.
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Your certainly not, but yes the 94 MY 7.3's were crap.
The better part of 2 years were spent doing warranty straight time work fixing oil leaks and injectors. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]
Sound familiar?
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Sort of funny.....the 7.3 now is the gold standard and the 6.0 is a POS to some. Regarding the "some" on this site there are a few that had a "true" bad experience but I suspect that there are a few that "always" have a bad experience with everything.
As to the new engine.... well it's not even out yet and the "always" people are already lining up predicting another bad experience. Talk about the half glass empty people VS the half glass full people? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shrug.gif[/img]
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Too much junk/toys to mention, ever changing due to too getting bored too quickly. I need a 10 step program!
Want to call? I'm in the book. Want to argue....First explain the square root of negative one....lol
Just one point about the 6.0L in any Ford after Jan 1, 2007. Ford can use it IF they are willing to pay the penalty. I don't know what it is but they could do so and pass that penalty on to the buyer or not.
As was pointed out in the van they MAY be able to get it, the 6.0L, where it needs to be by adding a bunch of emissions gear on the 6.0L. Who knows? Time will tell.
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Allen
2005 F350 King Ranch 6.0L,4X4 DRW,5sp auto,4:10 LS, camper pkg, towing pkg, Loaded everything except dual alts and moonroof.
Options/changes...Supersprings for the TC, coolant water filter, Sylvania HV13XV hi-lo's, Sylvania Silverstar 9005 foglites, Brite box+ foglites, Tubular grill inserts, Paregon retractable bed cover, OilGuard EPS 60 bypass filter with Schaffers 9000 5w40 synthetic, Bilstien shocks, PIAA 93360 Super Sporza silicone wiper blades, Husky floor mats, Dash mat cover.
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Just one point about the 6.0L in any Ford after Jan 1, 2007. Ford can use it IF they are willing to pay the penalty. I don't know what it is but they could do so and pass that penalty on to the buyer or not.
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I don't understand all this fantasizing about the 6.0L continuing after 1/1/2007. It's done, kaput, gone. They've redesigned the truck with the 6.4L in mind and they won't be bolting 6.0L engines into it.
Duncan
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The 1997 F250HD Crewcab: Picture
The 2000 XLT Excursion <font color="red">(SOLD)</font>: Picture
The 2003 F250 Crewcab 6.0L: Web page
The 6.0L Bible: Web page
The 6.4L Bible: Web page
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Just one point about the 6.0L in any Ford after Jan 1, 2007. Ford can use it IF they are willing to pay the penalty. I don't know what it is but they could do so and pass that penalty on to the buyer or not.
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I don't understand all this fantasizing about the 6.0L continuing after 1/1/2007. It's done, kaput, gone. They've redesigned the truck with the 6.4L in mind and they won't be bolting 6.0L engines into it.
Duncan
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I'd be willing to get a friendly wager that you'll see new 6L's for sale on lots after 1/1/07 [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
I'd be willing to get a friendly wager that you'll see new 6L's for sale on lots after 1/1/07 [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Well duh, but they'll all have been produced before 1/1/07. All these folks dreaming of ways for Ford to keep *manufacturing* trucks with the 6.0L engine past 1/1/07 are kidding themselves.
Duncan
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The 1997 F250HD Crewcab: Picture
The 2000 XLT Excursion <font color="red">(SOLD)</font>: Picture
The 2003 F250 Crewcab 6.0L: Web page
The 6.0L Bible: Web page
The 6.4L Bible: Web page
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I'd be willing to get a friendly wager that you'll see new 6L's for sale on lots after 1/1/07 [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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I'D be willing to bet that you'll see new 6.0L's on sale after 1/1/ 08 !! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/biggrin.gif[/img]
well just had customer went to order one of the last 6.0's and he was too late all orders now come with the 6.4 l
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1996 F350 2WD DRW CC Black STG1 160 CC INJECTORS , D66 TURBO FROM BEANS ,3.5" DOWN PIPE 4" MAGNAFLOW EXHAUST, SD HPOP , CPR FUEL SYSTEM ,DIY TYMAR AIR FILTER , DP TUNER WITH F5 , AUTOMETER GAUGES PYRO - BOOST - TRANS TEMP - COOLANT , DIPRICOL HPOP GAUGE .
6.0l SD INTERCOOLER MOD WITH NEW CUSTOM MODDED TANKS AND AEM WATER METH KIT TO HELP LOWER EGT'S ON HILLS , E40D HIGHLY MODDED
2009 FORD F 150 FX4 S /CREW LOADED (BLACK)
2007 SPORTSMAN 500HO STEALTH BLACK
2008 SPORTSMAN 800HO STEALTH BLACK
2009 POLARIS RZR NEUCLEAR ORANGE 2" LIFT, 27"SWAMPLITWES ON ITP RIMS , POLARIS PERFORMANCE EXHAUST KIT (THIS THING IS CRAZZZY I LOVE IT )
2008 COUGAR SRX (KEYSTONE) 30FT HOLIDAY TRAILER
When's the build date then? Because I just ordered my 6.0 1 month ago and my build date is 2nd week of October. These things going to ship before Christmas or are all these folks gonna sit and wait.
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"Vans don't interest me. But hey, thanks, good to know someone is still going to have to suffer with the 6.0."
Well possibly about 10,000 fire departments, airport shuttles, emergency ambulances etc. might have just a slight interest. I guess they don't count.
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Like I said vans don't interest me, but I sure hope that if I need an emergency vehicle it has a Triton in it instead of a 6.0. Gives a whole new meaning to the term "dead pedal". Richard, find something else to do than pick fights with me. You are no fun anymore, way too serious and spiteful.
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Most vans for EMS and Fire are diesel like it or not. Surprise surprise I actually agree with you that I would rather rely on the V-10 rather than the 6.0, particularly the 03's. I think things got a bit better later on than the early 03's.
I'm no 7.3 authority but I think they too had a few early years of teething problems.
I don't know how Ford is doing the '07 emissions requirement as far as ending the build date to be complient with the '07 emissions but at Freightliner as long as an engine block is ordered before Dec. 31 it can still be legal. We are building '06's until May of '07 then the sh*t hits the fan. Currently with Freightliner, Sterling, Western Star the backlog for '06 as of Sep. 18 was 85,651 units to build. Do not know if any of this helps. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img]
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99.5 (born 4/98)f350,cc,drw,4:10,airaid intake w/ k &n fitpac, straight piped ,pro,boost,tranny gauge,BRV+, ac mod.
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I don't know how Ford is doing the '07 emissions requirement as far as ending the build date to be complient with the '07 emissions but at Freightliner as long as an engine block is ordered before Dec. 31 it can still be legal. We are building '06's until May of '07 then the sh*t hits the fan. Currently with Freightliner, Sterling, Western Star the backlog for '06 as of Sep. 18 was 85,651 units to build. Do not know if any of this helps. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/eek.gif[/img]
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not sure how ford is with this but my buddy is the genrsl msnsger of the local kenworth dealer they own a chain of the i believe 15 dealerships they ordered 2200 trucks ( for all 15 stores ) in order to get before 07 emission's b/s a big truck down for a day in this area will cost the average owner $2000 / day minimum and no one owns a big truck older than 4 years here due to oilpatch being so darn busy
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1996 F350 2WD DRW CC Black STG1 160 CC INJECTORS , D66 TURBO FROM BEANS ,3.5" DOWN PIPE 4" MAGNAFLOW EXHAUST, SD HPOP , CPR FUEL SYSTEM ,DIY TYMAR AIR FILTER , DP TUNER WITH F5 , AUTOMETER GAUGES PYRO - BOOST - TRANS TEMP - COOLANT , DIPRICOL HPOP GAUGE .
6.0l SD INTERCOOLER MOD WITH NEW CUSTOM MODDED TANKS AND AEM WATER METH KIT TO HELP LOWER EGT'S ON HILLS , E40D HIGHLY MODDED
2009 FORD F 150 FX4 S /CREW LOADED (BLACK)
2007 SPORTSMAN 500HO STEALTH BLACK
2008 SPORTSMAN 800HO STEALTH BLACK
2009 POLARIS RZR NEUCLEAR ORANGE 2" LIFT, 27"SWAMPLITWES ON ITP RIMS , POLARIS PERFORMANCE EXHAUST KIT (THIS THING IS CRAZZZY I LOVE IT )
2008 COUGAR SRX (KEYSTONE) 30FT HOLIDAY TRAILER
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When's the build date then? Because I just ordered my 6.0 1 month ago and my build date is 2nd week of October. These things going to ship before Christmas or are all these folks gonna sit and wait.
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well he ordered the day before i posted this so not sure the build date though i will ask him next time i see him
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1996 F350 2WD DRW CC Black STG1 160 CC INJECTORS , D66 TURBO FROM BEANS ,3.5" DOWN PIPE 4" MAGNAFLOW EXHAUST, SD HPOP , CPR FUEL SYSTEM ,DIY TYMAR AIR FILTER , DP TUNER WITH F5 , AUTOMETER GAUGES PYRO - BOOST - TRANS TEMP - COOLANT , DIPRICOL HPOP GAUGE .
6.0l SD INTERCOOLER MOD WITH NEW CUSTOM MODDED TANKS AND AEM WATER METH KIT TO HELP LOWER EGT'S ON HILLS , E40D HIGHLY MODDED
2009 FORD F 150 FX4 S /CREW LOADED (BLACK)
2007 SPORTSMAN 500HO STEALTH BLACK
2008 SPORTSMAN 800HO STEALTH BLACK
2009 POLARIS RZR NEUCLEAR ORANGE 2" LIFT, 27"SWAMPLITWES ON ITP RIMS , POLARIS PERFORMANCE EXHAUST KIT (THIS THING IS CRAZZZY I LOVE IT )
2008 COUGAR SRX (KEYSTONE) 30FT HOLIDAY TRAILER
I order trucks for the Kenworth dealer here in Austin. I am already just about out of pre-2007 motors as they are selling so fast. I can still order the MDs though for another week or two.
My factory called last week and offered me a few Class 8 slots in January w/ the pre-emissions motors but when I priced them out they cost 12K more each so I passed!
It's going to be a tough first quarter I beleive.
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Early '99 7.3 Superduty. Built 3-98
Built motor. Homemade "Big Oil", GT42R Big frame turbo. Rods and junk to keep it all together.
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