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Old 09-29-2009, 04:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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AFE filter grades?

I pose a question on the different grades of filters AFE has to offer.

(PG-7) - (Pro DryS) - (Pro 5r)

My questions is unless your driving on a gravel road all of the time why wouldn't you use the Pro 5r? It is supposed to have the best flow numbers and is rated to be better at protecting from dust than a stock filter (as far as AFE's info says). I know the Pro DryS allows you to get away from cleaning and re-oiling but other than that why would you choose the Pro Dry over the 5r.

How much off road traveling deems it necessary to use the Pro 7 or the Pro DryS for that matter?

Let me ask you this as well. If the 5r is better than a stock filter and most people aren't afraid to drive off road with stock filters, why wouldn't the 5r suffice in most cases.

Just something I have been wondering about.
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I drive caliche roads all day long and have the pg7. all of my trucks have the pg7 filter and i wont try the pro 5 just bc i dont want to chance it. You wont notice any performace gain between the 2
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You already have the best filter system...stock
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Thanks powerstrokin03, I was wondering if you loose any performance by using a higher grade filtration.

Does anybody know what the flow difference is between the 5r and the pg7. The AFE website doesn't compare apples to apples. The pg7 and the dry-s use the same vacuum but the 5r uses a different vacuum to compare to.

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You already have the best filter system...stock
Sorry but I have a hard time believing that. If stock was the best AFE, Volant, S&B and many other would be out of business. No one would use there filters for risk of engin damage.
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Thanks powerstrokin03, I was wondering if you loose any performance by using a higher grade filtration.

Does anybody know what the flow difference is between the 5r and the pg7. The AFE website doesn't compare apples to apples. The pg7 and the dry-s use the same vacuum but the 5r uses a different vacuum to compare to.



Sorry but I have a hard time believing that. If stock was the best AFE, Volant, S&B and many other would be out of business. No one would use there filters for risk of engin damage.
on the tuned trucks like mine the stock intake doesn't become a restriction until you start using the 210 and higher tunes....
As far as filtration you won't find a better set up. Also, other than the S&B all those intakes are prone to CEL's with an otherwise stock truck. Do a search
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on the tuned trucks like mine the stock intake doesn't become a restriction until you start using the 210 and higher tunes....
As far as filtration you won't find a better set up. Also, other than the S&B all those intakes are prone to CEL's with an otherwise stock truck. Do a search
My old 7.3 was tuned and ran substantialy better with an intake. My top tune only added 100hp so I think a no matter what tune you use, added air flow helps. Less restriction no matter on what level increases power.

All the searching I have done describes CEL's coming on with an intake. I was thinking of just using a drop in filter. Are people still haveing trouble setting off the CEL's with a drop in? If so, what filter were you using?
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My old 7.3 was tuned and ran substantialy better with an intake. My top tune only added 100hp so I think a no matter what tune you use, added air flow helps. Less restriction no matter on what level increases power.

All the searching I have done describes CEL's coming on with an intake. I was thinking of just using a drop in filter. Are people still haveing trouble setting off the CEL's with a drop in? If so, what filter were you using?
i have heard of no issues with just a drop in. As far as your 7.3... the filter set up on the 6.0 and the 6.4 is far superior to anything the 7.3 had. That is why i commented on a fairly stock truck, an aftermarket intake is just going to add noise... but what do i know?
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Sorry but I have a hard time believing that. If stock was the best AFE, Volant, S&B and many other would be out of business. No one would use there filters for risk of engin damage.

I guess you never heard of PT Barnum.
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ALL the aftermarket intakes throw codes...AFE threw the most on my truck. The banks and S&B threw the least.
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