Ford Diesel Forum / Powerstroke Forum
Ford Diesel Forum / Powerstroke Forum
Go Back   Diesel Forum - The Diesel Stop.com > 2008-Up Super Duties > 6.4L Upgrades and Aftermarket - Engine
Register Home Forum Active Topics Gallery Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

6.4L Upgrades and Aftermarket - Engine Upgrading and adding aftermarket equipment to your 2008 Super Duty truck with 6.4L Power Stroke diesel engine. Please confine discussion of topics in this forum to those items that are specific to the 6.4L Power Stroke engine.

       
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-29-2008, 01:24 AM   #1 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 2
iTrader: (0)
My Photos: (0)
Edge Evolution vs Juice w Attitude

Just wondering what is the difference between the juice and the evolution? The Evolution is cheaper and produces more power. Are these the same type of programers. I am not interested in hearing about warrenty issues with chips, just about the edge products.

Thank you
PFB
poor farmboy is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 12-29-2008, 07:56 AM   #2 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
JimmyDee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: West Michigan Lower Peninsula
Posts: 5,445
iTrader: (0)
My Photos: (24)
The J/A is a modified 10 mod. It changes the pressure of the HP oil system. It also has a shifting full power defueling setting and a high exhaust temp defueling setting. On my 7.3, there is a true 75 hp increase. Also has an exhaust temp gauge and boost gauge.
You will need gauges with the EVO. It is a program and because it tinkers with the program of the engine, it can advance the injection timing, amount of fuel and who knows what else they change. Because of the number of things it can change, it will produce more power.
My personal feeling is that you will like the J/A with the safety of the defueling settings if you are looking for a modest power increase. Drag racing, go with the EVO.
Jim
__________________
2001, F250 4x4, CC, Auto; Mobil 1 in transfer case&Trans.; Frantz Bypass Filter; "Hutch" fuel mods; Sonnax/Tricum mod; 4" Exhaust, 30" MagnaFlow; Attitude in A-Pillar and tranny gauge in Dash; AIS; EASE Diagnostics; Reese Slider Hitch; Fr Rotors, Cryo Treated&Slotted by ART.
JimmyDee is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2008, 03:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
DSTRBD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: TX
Posts: 1,982
iTrader: (1)
My Photos: (0)
The Evo is a programmer and the Juice/Att is a harness style box. The Evo reprograms the computer, the Juice/Att changes the signal. The Evo has more power, but does not come with all the fancy features the Juice/Att does.
__________________
www.performancetruckproducts.com
888-497-3666
Got Questions? Chat LIVE On Our Site

MBRP Exclusive Offer!
  • FREE PTP T-Shirt
  • FREE Tip (most 4" systems)
  • FREE Shipping
4" Budget Exhaust Kits Starting at $259 shipped
DSTRBD is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2008, 06:13 PM   #4 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
JimmyDee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: West Michigan Lower Peninsula
Posts: 5,445
iTrader: (0)
My Photos: (24)
Quote:
Originally Posted by DSTRBD View Post
The Evo is a programmer and the Juice/Att is a harness style box. The Evo reprograms the computer, the Juice/Att changes the signal. The Evo has more power, but does not come with all the fancy features the Juice/Att does.
Isn't that what I said?
Jim
__________________
2001, F250 4x4, CC, Auto; Mobil 1 in transfer case&Trans.; Frantz Bypass Filter; "Hutch" fuel mods; Sonnax/Tricum mod; 4" Exhaust, 30" MagnaFlow; Attitude in A-Pillar and tranny gauge in Dash; AIS; EASE Diagnostics; Reese Slider Hitch; Fr Rotors, Cryo Treated&Slotted by ART.
JimmyDee is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2008, 09:10 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
DSTRBD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: TX
Posts: 1,982
iTrader: (1)
My Photos: (0)
Well, you said it changes the pressure of the HP oil system. While that is true on the 7.3L and 6.0L (HEUI) , the 6.4L (common rail) is a completely different fuel system.
__________________
www.performancetruckproducts.com
888-497-3666
Got Questions? Chat LIVE On Our Site

MBRP Exclusive Offer!
  • FREE PTP T-Shirt
  • FREE Tip (most 4" systems)
  • FREE Shipping
4" Budget Exhaust Kits Starting at $259 shipped
DSTRBD is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2009, 12:20 PM   #6 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
dgrindst's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 7
iTrader: (0)
My Photos: (0)
The juice/att. used in conjunction with the S&B 9621 OR works awesome. Great power, huge mileage increase, and lower egts.
__________________
2008 Lariet F450 4X4 crew, juice/attitude, SCT 9621 OR tuner, S&B airbox, full 4" exhaust, hauling Triton 211-SF and pulling Montana 335RLBS
dgrindst is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2009, 04:02 PM   #7 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Kalifornia
Posts: 11
iTrader: (0)
My Photos: (0)
The Evolution comes with gauges too. It displays EGT, etc. But what I don't understand is why doesn't it offer some of things I consider safety issues like:
• Automatic defueling to prevent excessive EGT, boost and transmission slip
• Cold engine protection
• Turbo cool down
• User-adjustable audible alert settings
• Low end responsive adjust
• Shift defuel setting

Or does it and I just don't know it yet...
__________________
2008 F-250 Lariat. Entirely stock
Fiveflat is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

  Diesel Forum - The Diesel Stop.com > 2008-Up Super Duties > 6.4L Upgrades and Aftermarket - Engine



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

» Log in
User Name:

Password:

Not a member yet?
Register Now!

» Wheel & Tire Center

Sponsors

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.0 RC2

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:54 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.1.0