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Old 01-01-2013, 11:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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So the other day I heard that tunners will be gone any day thanks to EPA. A friend is trying to get me to by an H&S for my 6.4 before they are gone. My question is is this the best one for me to get? My 6.4 is in an F450 with a 12 foot box on it and always tows a 30 ft trailer so it usually weighs between 20,000 and 24,000 lbs. I am not looking for performance more for reliability and fuel economy. I am going to go buy this thing if it seems to be the best thing for this truck. I am also going to pick up an SCT for my 6.0 before i can't get them anymore. I have to go buy this thing like tomorrow with cash so I would really appreciate some input.
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I have heard great things about the H&S in the 6.4s. My buddy has one with a DPF delete and he get's around 26mpg. I personally run the handheld SCT in my 6.4. I also see the same mpg with a DPF and EGR delete. I wouldn't be afraid to run either of them, I just went with the SCT cause I didn't have 900$ at the time. As far as the 6.0, the SCT is the thing to get. The engine and tranny tunes are just right. Both my trucks laugh at 40,000 lb 35 foot trailers and sip the diesel like a Volkswagon TDI. Good luck!
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Just stay away from Edge chips/tuners. They have a very bad rep for screwing up trannys.
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Early 2004 F-250 6.0 POWERSTROKE!!!~~6.GO!!!!!~~ 03 motor, Straight pipe with stock pipe, DFUSER Coolant Filter, River City Diesel EGR Delete, Ranch Hand Grille Guard, Flatbed, Regular Cab...my Cow feeding/farm truck ~~~

2008 F-350 6.4 POWERSTROKE!!!~~Diamond Eye 4 Inch Turbo Back DPF DELETE Exhaust, SCT SF3 3015R Race Tuner, Sinister MFG EGR Delete, AFE High Flow Filter~~NOT A SINGLE REPAIR!!~~~~

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I highly doubt that tuners are going away anytime soon
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TIM K I highly doubt that tuners are going away anytime soon


Go to H&S web page and read the press release if you don't think they are going away. You cannot order anymore H&S turners right now. The only place you can get them is companies that have left over stock. I think the same thing is happening to SCT.
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26 mpg, must have found the right tune ;-)
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26 mpg, must have found the right tune ;-)
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TIM K I highly doubt that tuners are going away anytime soon


Go to H&S web page and read the press release if you don't think they are going away. You cannot order anymore H&S turners right now. The only place you can get them is companies that have left over stock. I think the same thing is happening to SCT.
Really glad I ordered one when I did. When I first heard about and then read the EPA clampdown, I ordered the H&S min maxx that day and just installed it last weekend. So far so good. The DPF and EGR will stay there for now, but I can see them evaporating from my truck as soon as the warranty is gone.
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American mpgs... just on long 64mph trips. My normal for most of my 10 mile highways is 23.
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2008 F-350 6.4 POWERSTROKE!!!~~Diamond Eye 4 Inch Turbo Back DPF DELETE Exhaust, SCT SF3 3015R Race Tuner, Sinister MFG EGR Delete, AFE High Flow Filter~~NOT A SINGLE REPAIR!!~~~~

LONG GONE>>400,000 MILES!!!~~1999 F-350 7.3 Powerstroke 6 Speed with AFE Cold Air Intake, Hypertech Max Energy, Air-Lift Load Lifter 5,000s.............and of course a Dixie Horn~~~
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I wouldn't average 20 mpg downhill in neutral. Average 14ish but still love the truck. Too much power! Almost...
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I highly doubt that tuners are going away anytime soon
Tuners in general, no. Tuners that modify or allow the user to modify the emissions, yes.
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TIM K I highly doubt that tuners are going away anytime soon


Go to H&S web page and read the press release if you don't think they are going away. You cannot order anymore H&S turners right now. The only place you can get them is companies that have left over stock. I think the same thing is happening to SCT.
Come Jan 21st you can only get Street Tuners from H&S. Some dealers may still have the older versions, how long support will be available though is unknown.
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Really glad I ordered one when I did. When I first heard about and then read the EPA clampdown, I ordered the H&S min maxx that day and just installed it last weekend. So far so good. The DPF and EGR will stay there for now, but I can see them evaporating from my truck as soon as the warranty is gone.
Sounds like you already voided the warranty. Might as well go ahead and delete now and enjoy the gains! And quite washing fuel down into the oil during regens.
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Sounds like you already voided the warranty. Might as well go ahead and delete now and enjoy the gains! And quite washing fuel down into the oil during regens.
Yep, Couldn't agree more, DPF will be gone in the spring as soon as it gets nice enough.
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I got my SCT for the 6.0 and an H & S for the 6.4 the other day. Also picked up a Colt .45 Defender to complete my anti hippie Christmas. I am so disgusted by all of this ****. I'm hoping to delete my DPF and EGR despite my warranty before I start another 25,000 mile year at 6.8 MPG. Pretty sure the saved fuel is better for the environment anyway.
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