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Old 09-29-2006, 12:40 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I'm doing my research now, and plan to start processing WVO in the next few months. How does Peanut oil perform? I have a great source for peanut oil. Thanks!!
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Old 10-25-2006, 11:43 PM   #17 (permalink)
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There are several problems with bio diesel as well guys, I'm sure it doesn't matter whether at the pump, or homemade. The main problem is in the northern states bio starts to gel at 40 degrees, this presents a problem with additives, which just drives the cost up. There aren't many companies that have adapted to the bio diesel anti gel problem. We just bought some bio anti gel made by fppf (i think, will check for sure). According to my sources, they are the only company so far to do any testing on the bio. One quart treats 250 gallon, but in extreme weather you may have to mix more. Power Service just sent out a flyer about anti gel in bio, when it's all said and done you have to mix THREE times the amount of product to bio to get the same protection.
Second issue with bio, and this doesn't matter warm or cold climate is Algae and bacteria growing in tank. We have had several local farmers, and truckers have to add algae killers to their tanks. Simply pouring out old, and adding new won't cure the problem. Same problem, nobody is testing bio for cure. Same company makes different product, but it's not cheap.
Third issue is a kudo for bio, with low sulfur diesel I've heard about possible problems with lubricity issues in engines pre-07. Bio has all the old lubrication, so if you're in a warm climate, use it in older trucks, might save your motor.
Another item of interest I've run across is bio could be eating hoses on storage tanks. I've had a local rock quarry which uses strictly bio in warm months bring several hoses in to be replaced. These are just on the storage tanks (so far), but what can it be doing to your rubber fuel lines? Like I said, this is only one place I've heard from that is having trouble, and can't say for sure it's the bio either, but that's where they're pointing the finger.
I'm a believer in bio, why give foreign countries our money for crude, when we can make it in the good old USA, but it's a new product, and there doesn't seem to be anyone out there doing any testing on it. If you're trying to save money and make your own that's great, but if it's costing you more in the long run, what's the use.
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Didn't get all the info before I started about biodiesel eating hoses, the plant that is having problems was running 99% bio, not the 5-20% you get at the pumps. It makes a sponge out of a rubber line pretty quick.
Is the homemade bio comparable? If it is keep an eye out for rubber fuel lines.
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By definition WVO versus dino fuel is different. biodiesel.com has a large amount of info on biodiesel. Get the science and go to the site and pull the processes and learn the routes for making true bio diesel from either source. Takes time and understanding, but once you're there it is pretty cool. Biggest issue after it is all said and done is after running straight bio diesel the neoprene in your fuel system goes bye bye. Bio Diesel is a great fuel, however the compatability with neoprene rubber for old 6.9's and 7.3'sIDI are not good including rubber line from fuel tank to engine. 70% dino / 30%bio prevents most of these issues.
Bottom line for making biodiesel is close to making home brew beer, its chemistry, and if you are not in to paying attention, pay at the pump.
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Will i have to do any mods to put B20 in my 99PSD? Ford says nothing more than B5.
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By reading everybody's posts here, my friend who lives couple blocks from my home had a kit over a year. he drives a 6.0 double cab dually 4WD truck and this is what he has been doing then. He goes twice a week to 4 different Burger Kings and Mc Donnalds locations, and he picks the oil from them. Then het got a 50 gal kit from a web site:
http://www.homebiodieselkits.com
It brought my attention, his truck is doing mid 19's and believe me the sound trotle at iddle is very smooth, althought his truck is highly modified in mods.
I've been researching this BD kits for months, still not yet decided which kit to get. Does anybody knows a realible kit online? where did you get yours? Now everybody in my family wants to get a diesel truck or a VW TDI vehicle.
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I havent seen it, but what are the byproducts of making Bio D?
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glycerine is a by -product
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anybody tried the "Diesel Secret energy" product? the "Wife" wants other opinions from the forum, before i look deeper into the stuff.
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Biodiesel engine wear

I've been researching to find as many answers as possible to decide which way to go on fuel. My concern has been lubricity and engine wear. The most extensive trials that I came across concerned palm oil.

Palm Oil as a Fuel for Agricultural Diesel Engines

There was a noticeable effect on the rings. Has anyone come up with info like this on other alternatives? How about Tall Oil? It's cheap.
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anybody tried the "Diesel Secret energy" product? the "Wife" wants other opinions from the forum, before i look deeper into the stuff.
Save yourself a lot of money and grief and stay away from it.
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I've been researching to find as many answers as possible to decide which way to go on fuel. My concern has been lubricity and engine wear. The most extensive trials that I came across concerned palm oil.

Palm Oil as a Fuel for Agricultural Diesel Engines

There was a noticeable effect on the rings. Has anyone come up with info like this on other alternatives? How about Tall Oil? It's cheap.
Tall oil will require some modifications to the transesterfication process to be turned into biodiesel, but it can be done.

The NRL and DOE did many studies on biodiesel. One that sticks in my mind is that a 1% addition of biodiesel to ULSD increased the lubricity of the fuel by 65%, so it's a good thing in any book.

Millions of miles and hours have been done in testing biodiesel in engines. With a higher cetane rating than ULSD, diesels will run quieter. While there won't be enough oil (until someone really gets going with algae) for all the diesel needs of say North America, it is a step in the right direction for renewable energy.

I make my biodiesel from waste veggie oil that would otherwise be going into dog food or the dump. The glycerin by product is turned into some of the best soap you've ever used.
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