Thank you for the clarification. I know what I need to do now.
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2005 F350 Crew Cab 4x4 SRW LB White Lariat FX4 6.0
4.5" Donahoe Racing Lift with 5" rear blocks. 35x12.5x18 Toyo Open Country M/T's on stock rims. Air Lift rear air bags with onboard compressor.
Sold: 1996 F250 Super Cab LB XLT White 7.3L 124,000mi. 1996 F250 Photo
I pulled the unit apart and inspected it under a microscope. Sure enough, all four 7.5 mOhm current sense resistors were loose.
On one side they were not soldered down on the pads facing each other. On the opposite side they were not soldered down on their right side pads. This of course isn't apparent by simple looking at it, even under a Leica microscope at 50x. But as soon as you put a little pressure on one side of the resistor with a pair of tweezers, it simply moved back and forth.
Other than that the rest of the PCB looked pretty good. Ford must use some sort of no clean flux since there was a bunch of flux all over the board. I really hate that stuff.
I'll be putting it back in this evening and hope for the best.
Thanks for all the great info and help.
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2005 F350 Crew Cab 4x4 SRW LB White Lariat FX4 6.0
4.5" Donahoe Racing Lift with 5" rear blocks. 35x12.5x18 Toyo Open Country M/T's on stock rims. Air Lift rear air bags with onboard compressor.
Sold: 1996 F250 Super Cab LB XLT White 7.3L 124,000mi. 1996 F250 Photo
I have always wondered that even with a good power supply and good 48 volts if some of the control circuts could also be a problen. Mine is a 7 pin FICM and I get a solid 47.8 volts but still having issues and I am going to open it up and see just how many bad joints I find in it other than the normal power supply this weekend.
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OWNER 2004 Ford F350 6.0L Dualie 214.000 miles with Edge Insight, Early Build 8/03 with 03 engine problem child 1996 Ford F350 7.3L Dualie 337,000 Tony Wildman custom burn,5 inch stacks, good ole girl
I am with Paul, I checked my voltage last night "after i got a FICM supply voltage low code" and I have 48.2-48.4 key on engine off and 48.7.-48.8 engine running. Is it possible that there still could be some bad solder joints on the control board?
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'05 F350 CC LB Lariat 3.73's
DieselSite Coolant filter
K&N Intake
Accufab Intake Elbow
FoMoCo Updated regulator spring
4" MBRP Turbo Back
Edge Juice W/Attitude
Isspro F/P and Tranny temp gauge
35" Toyo MT's
Bushwacker "Extend-A-Fender" flares "Thanks to Matt and the Bushwacker crew!!" Painted to match by my good friend Brandon @ Sandy AutoBody.
Firestone Ride-Rite air bags
Mag-Hytec Diff covers
Killer Sound System
BulletProof EGR cooler, new factory oil cooler, ARP Headstuds, factory HG's, STC fitting update, Updated Turbo drain pipe, Turbo rebuild, Injectors tested and new o-rings, all @ 109K.
Well while I was doing the IPC change I took the FICM appart to check it out.
Never bothered with re-doing it. After removing the two plastic covers off the capasitors on the power supply board I found that one of the FET transistors had exploded and the board was burnt black.
I would say this happende before I replaced the injector harness. The original harness had been repaired by a dealer in West Virginia and the wires just out from the FICM connector wer butt spliced together and rappe with tape befor I bought the truck and I found it while in there fishing a glow plug out of the head. Don't ask, it is a long story too and was a self inflicted oh no.
So Monday I will be getting a new FICM.
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OWNER 2004 Ford F350 6.0L Dualie 214.000 miles with Edge Insight, Early Build 8/03 with 03 engine problem child 1996 Ford F350 7.3L Dualie 337,000 Tony Wildman custom burn,5 inch stacks, good ole girl
Does any one know what years come with the 4 pin and 7 pin? Thank you for this info. Great write up and I know what I will be doing in the am.
Thank you
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Jeff
2005 F-350 Supper Duty quad cab 4x4 long bed 6.0 diesel, every thing is 100% stock other than a 4” Supper lift with 35 12.5 Nitto Mud Grapplers.
Well I couldn’t figure out the problem, tested the FICM a few times and its showing 48.0 volts, I took it down to Ford today and they ran a test on the truck and told me it’s the FICM. So should I still take it off and see if there is any thing burnt in side even if its showing 48 volts?
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Jeff
2005 F-350 Supper Duty quad cab 4x4 long bed 6.0 diesel, every thing is 100% stock other than a 4” Supper lift with 35 12.5 Nitto Mud Grapplers.
Well i bought what I was told was one that was taken off a parted out truck in working order. Put it on and was reading 32 volts. second check was down to 23 volts.
Took it appart and repaired 8 bad connections transferred the 63V capasitors from the burnt up 7 pin to the 4 pin off ebay, checked the data sheets on some of the other devices and did the 10K voltage adjustment and now have 57.2 volts
Fantastic difference
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OWNER 2004 Ford F350 6.0L Dualie 214.000 miles with Edge Insight, Early Build 8/03 with 03 engine problem child 1996 Ford F350 7.3L Dualie 337,000 Tony Wildman custom burn,5 inch stacks, good ole girl
Took it appart and repaired 8 bad connections transferred the 63V capasitors from the burnt up 7 pin to the 4 pin off ebay, checked the data sheets on some of the other devices and did the 10K voltage adjustment and now have 57.2 volts
Fantastic difference
Can you point to a post that describes the 10K voltage adjustment for the FAQ?
After several weeks of my 2005 6.0 350 having issues starting in the morning it finally wouldn't start at all. It would race and crank and this morning just cranked and not start. I had a check engine light that said all cylinders weren't getting and voltage or low voltage. After reading your posts on this site I found the document on repairing the FICM. I busted out my soldering iron and had to make a quick stop at the home depot to replace my 20 year old solder that i found. I was done in three ours and she fired right up. I cant tell you how suprised i was. I am hoping that it fires up in the morning but it was a total 180 from before the repair..You guys are life and $$$ savers. Thanks
Hey guys I have a question. I done the FICM Repair per DRQuad's instructions...It seemed to help out a lot, then about a week, week and a half later it seems to be worse than it was! It will start fine when I leave it plugged up over night, but when I get ready to go home from work and try to start it, if it starts, I have a some smoke from the tail pipe a little blue-ish in color, the motor shakes and makes the usual psd clackety sound, but its really loud and it really runs like crap until it warms up. Any info you could give will be greatly appreciated!
Hey guys I have a question. I done the FICM Repair per DRQuad's instructions...It seemed to help out a lot, then about a week, week and a half later it seems to be worse than it was! It will start fine when I leave it plugged up over night, but when I get ready to go home from work and try to start it, if it starts, I have a some smoke from the tail pipe a little blue-ish in color, the motor shakes and makes the usual psd clackety sound, but its really loud and it really runs like crap until it warms up. Any info you could give will be greatly appreciated!
Several have experienced this same thing. Resolder-only repairs are nearly always temporary -whether only for a week, a month, or a year, and don't address the degradation of components (and not just the capacitors) over time.
I don't mean to turn this into an advertisement for services, but I have repaired nearly a hundred of these now and never, ever, just resolder. New components are always better than old ones, even if they do, for now, test out okay. Getting stuck on the side of the road just isn't worth it nor is having to pull the module again.
I do voltage upgrades too, which is much more than simply soldering on a resistor. That, to me, is begging for trouble since you are asking more of the downstream components than they were designed to do.
Thanks for replying Ed, So would a resolder be worth a try, come to think of it I have done it twice now. The first time I done it there were no changes I still had the starting problem so I pulled it back off and done it again and it worked and lasted for a week or two. Should I just go ahead and shell out the money and get a new one?
Hi Hank - the issue is not that you need a 'new' FICM, you just need components on your existing one replaced and replaced usin a soldering method that is done at the right temperature with the right solder making sure you don't leave the iron on the part so long that you damage it.
Let me know if I can help you. A simple resolder job isn't, in my opinion, worth the effort considering how long it tends to (not) last.
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