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Old 05-05-2008, 04:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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2011 Superduty and new engine with it

I was looking around thedieselstop and came across the some links that eventually lead me to this web site.

2011 Ford Super Duty: 2011 Ford Super Duty Engine Mule Shows Off Replacement To Stroking?

Apparently, Ford is ending the contract with international for making the Navistar engines (due to cost and warranty issues), is coming out with a new 6.7l diesel with a new transmission to go with it. The engine is currently in an 2008 body with a bigger hood. Has any one found out more information about this change that Ford is doing????
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I was looking around thedieselstop and came across the some links that eventually lead me to this web site.

2011 Ford Super Duty: 2011 Ford Super Duty Engine Mule Shows Off Replacement To Stroking?

Apparently, Ford is ending the contract with international for making the Navistar engines (due to cost and warranty issues), is coming out with a new 6.7l diesel with a new transmission to go with it. The engine is currently in an 2008 body with a bigger hood. Has any one found out more information about this change that Ford is doing????

well they certainly need to do something. the current one has already lost most of its luster and its still in its first year.
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that hood looks straight up retarded
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They take existing bodies and do whatever is necessary to fit development powertrains. People don't understand that and make judegements and even purchase decisions based on such things. It is why they usually mask vehicles like that truck pictured.
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well they certainly need to do something. the current one has already lost most of its luster and its still in its first year.
Their main motivation is to break the connection with Navistar.


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that hood looks straight up retarded
Function over form. Don't worry all they did was motify an existing hood to clear the bigger 6.7l. They want to test the engine before making any permanent body changes. My guess is it is just temporary.
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I was driving down I94 on my way to Dearborn when I had that truck pass me, I was driving my 08 escape and rolled my windows down and drove next to him I couldn't hear the motor at all at about 75mph. The exhaust sounded good but it has the flanged test pipe sticking out.

The traffic slowed to a stop and then took off again like it always does in rush hour, I had my 2.3l manual escape red linning through the gears but couldn't catch him again, he took off like a rocket, and no smoke.
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I was driving down I94 on my way to Dearborn when I had that truck pass me, I was driving my 08 escape and rolled my windows down and drove next to him I couldn't hear the motor at all at about 75mph. The exhaust sounded good but it has the flanged test pipe sticking out.

The traffic slowed to a stop and then took off again like it always does in rush hour, I had my 2.3l manual escape red linning through the gears but couldn't catch him again, he took off like a rocket, and no smoke.
are you talkin about the test truck or a 2008 diesel truck? personally i really dont care about the hood other than the fact the engine will be a reliable engine that will have a good reputation like the 7.3. ALSO the price to buy the truck will be more reasonable price to buy.
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yah I seriously doubt the 2011 is going to be cheaper to buy, and when did the 6.4s become so unreliable? Haven't had any problems with mine yet... then again I'm not sure its built yet either.
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Buckhold The truck I saw was the one in the picture, with the new motor, I'v seen them up close, its just a test mule for the motor and trans....Any mods to the body is just to fit stuff in.
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Buckhold The truck I saw was the one in the picture, with the new motor, I'v seen them up close, its just a test mule for the motor and trans....Any mods to the body is just to fit stuff in.
Did you actually see the new motor? My thoughts are how much of this new motor report is for real or just rumour? I don't see a new engine, all I see is a pic of an '08 with a different hood! For all we know it could just be a pic of some guy who's modded his truck!
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I have seen the trucks in the service bays, but have not gotten close enough to see under the hood, and I won't try, they don't just let anybody walk up and look. Even if I saw a new motor and trans sitting out I probobly wouldn't know the differance. I have seen several parked around the only differance I see is with what was seen in the photo, headlights and hood. They really are not being that sneaky about those trucks, if it was a new design the front would be covered in public, and in the shops.
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thats right, the new vehicles have that black cover on the body to hide it. also are you near the ford plant that assembles the truck if you are seeing more than one truck with that hood?
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I will just say I work in Dearborn, and I see lots of testing. Anything new is always well covered unless they want it seen, lots of people come through here. And yes I have seen at least 6 trucks with that hood & headlight, the first one I saw was on the highway, then later I saw several parked in a row, then a couple on lifts. There are also aftermarket companies and even the rest of the big 5 that do testing here so those trucks could be for non production stuff. Maybee even race motors, Roush does testing here so anything is possible.
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It still looks better than the Chevies. Yeah, maybe they're not hiding it very well because they WANT everybody to know that the break with Navistar is going to happen. In that case Ford better not screw it up.
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