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Old 09-27-2009, 06:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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changing oil for the first time ??????

I am going to change the oil in my 09 for the first time. When you loosen the oil filter does it drain into the pan? How long does this take? Do you change the filter before emptying the oil pan? My last engine (7.3) had a dual remote bypass filter so I didn't change it very often and it was quite different. Thanks for the info.
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Yes the filter drains into the pan. I usually open the filter so it drains into the pan, roll underneath on my creeper, pull the drain plug, and let it drain until I see no more steady oil flowing out. I then put in my new Motorcraft filter, re-install the plug, and fill with the oil of your choice.
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Make a special trip to walmart and get 4gal of oil and a motorcraft or fram filter (exact same filter). I say a special trip to only make sure the oil is nice and warm. If you are coming home from somewhere then it will be nice and warm from that. Open up the oil filter cap but leave the filter there and let it drain for a few minutes. Climb under the truck and with a ---- wrench remove the drain plug and let it drain for at least 20min into the pan. While draining, snap the old filter out of the cap and remove the old O-ring. Install the new O-ring and snap the new filter into the cap. Oil the O-ring and replace the cap. Hand screw the cap down until it touches the alumn housing. By the way the cap that is the center most on the engine is the oil cap, the one more to the front is the fuel filter. Once you have screwed the cap down by hand give it a slight turn with a wrench. Just lightly snug it nothing more, the O-ring keeps it liquid tight. Make it too tight the cap will crack and break. Replace drain plug, put 15 qts in and start it up. You will need a 15 qt drain pan. I use the one walmart sells because it does a nice job, its cheap and you can actually pour the oil back into the jugs although you will not be able to use the 4th jug because it will still have a quart in it. When possible photocopy the walmart receipt and keep it in the owners manual. It is your oil change proof that they will ask for if you need to have any work done on the engine. The photocopy is less likely to fade or turn colors then the original. Should take you about a half hour total. I am not sure what the drain plug size is on the 6.4....the 6.0 had a 19mm drain plug so take a 19 and 20 with you. The filter cap is a 36mm although i use a large adjustable Stanley wrench from walmart that i can adjust to fit all of the caps on the truck. I haven't done an oil change on my 6.4 yet (due next month) but i just did our 6.0 a couple hours ago. What i have posted should be relatively accurate. Oh and one last thing. Take a few minutes when under the truck and look around. These trucks are amazing mechanically. Good luck and congrads you just saved yourself a nice chunk of change.
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One thing everyone forgets to add to changing the oil is … REPLACE THE COPPER WASHER ON THE DRAIN PLUG!!! … it will leak if you don’t replace it
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That's because no body actually changes it until it starts to leak.
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Thanks for the info. I did get a Fumoto valve so I won't need the copper washer when I change my oil this week.
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Thanks for the info. I did get a Fumoto valve so I won't need the copper washer when I change my oil this week.
What is a Fumoto valve and how is it ? thanks New Diesel owner. and already loving the maintenance.
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FUMOTO ENGINEERING

Those that use it swear by it.
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I love the idea ... but I am afraid of it getting knocked off ... I'll stick to my plug

Here is the link FUMOTO ENGINEERING
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I love the idea ... but I am afraid of it getting knocked off ... I'll stick to my plug

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The valve doesn't stick out past your front axle. You have your axle plus other things that stick out lower than where that valve would protrude.

I have the valve. It's awesome. It's better than (fill in the blank).
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