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6.0 doesn't run a dpf, so therefore no regen. So not exactly possible for that to happen on a 6.0.
Now it did happen on some 6.4's and early 6.7's, iirc.
Might have been a later engine, next time I'll stop, block the other lane and yell at the driver as to what engine he has. Never been that interested in that engine, but seems like one of the many 6.0 liter complaints was flames puking out the tailpipe.

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I don't believe that the 6.0 throws flames it just has a problem running.

The 6.4 throws flames

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Funny thing but VW just had great sales numbers this past quarter and the diesels remain popular even after "DieselGate".

https://www.motor1.com/news/238839/v...ecord-q1-2018/


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Funny thing but VW just had great sales numbers this past quarter and the diesels remain popular even after "DieselGate".

https://www.motor1.com/news/238839/v...ecord-q1-2018/
I'm not surprised. At the end of the day most people don't care. They know that every other company would do the same if they thought they could get away with it. It's just that VW exec's were confident and arrogant enough to think they could "build a better mouse trap" that no one in north america would be smart enough to figure out and if we did, they would just lie their way out of it.

Just like with every other scandal these days, the masses (especially on the liberal side it seems), have become addicted to being outraged over just about anything that slightly doesn't sit well...but they run out of energy and interest pretty fast, move onto the next "scandal de jour" and become outraged again. The media does a great job of feeding this cycle.
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Well said, Phil, that pretty much sums it up!

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Arrogant indeed, I've owned many BMW motorcycles in the last 40 years and the one thing I can tell you is the Germans won't admit when they screw up, they may fix the problem but they'll most likely either blame it on the operator or just never acknowledge the issue. VW took too long to respond when the chit hit the fan, a company like Ford or GM would probably have had a backup plan in place in case they got caught, or at least they would have known who the right people were to pay off before things got out of control. If nothing else I'll bet that one thing VW learned from this is that they need to be contributing a lot more to political campaigns here in the states in the future.
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Funny thing but VW just had great sales numbers this past quarter and the diesels remain popular even after "DieselGate".

https://www.motor1.com/news/238839/v...ecord-q1-2018/
The diesels may still be popular, but VW doesn't offer any for sale in the US anymore.

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The diesels may still be popular, but VW doesn't offer any for sale in the US anymore.
They don't offer any new model years but the existing model years continued to be popular through 2017:

https://www.greencarreports.com/news...get-first-dibs

Its interesting that with fewer diesels on the road, we still see a premium for diesel at the pump.


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Yep, it's at least 50 cents a gallon higher than gas in my area.

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Yep, it's at least 50 cents a gallon higher than gas in my area.
Not so here. $2.75 for regular and $2.97 for diesel.

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They don't offer any new model years but the existing model years continued to be popular through 2017:

https://www.greencarreports.com/news...get-first-dibs

Its interesting that with fewer diesels on the road, we still see a premium for diesel at the pump.
Yes, I should have said that VW doesn't offer any current model year diesels for sale. However, their software fix has been approved for the new 2015 model year diesels that they were not allowed to sell, and the dealers are now advertising them for sale.

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In California, there was recently a 20 cent per gallon tax increase on diesel. All of the gas stations over night raised their prices on diesel by at least 50 cents per gallon. But the real reason for high diesel prices is the popularity of buying things online. It takes a lot of diesel trucks to deliver all of those products to everyone's porch instead of having people take the products home from the stores in their own mostly gas vehicles.

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In California, there was recently a 20 cent per gallon tax increase on diesel. All of the gas stations over night raised their prices on diesel by at least 50 cents per gallon. But the real reason for high diesel prices is the popularity of buying things online. It takes a lot of diesel trucks to deliver all of those products to everyone's porch instead of having people take the products home from the stores in their own mostly gas vehicles.
It was already $1/gallon more than Nevada on I-80 when I drove out in January.

Funny thing but I did not feel much difference with the 53-cetane...granted it wasn’t very cold in the mornings when that cetane bump helps. Maybe slight improvement keeping acceleration thru the mountain passes.


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In California, there was recently a 20 cent per gallon tax increase on diesel. All of the gas stations over night raised their prices on diesel by at least 50 cents per gallon. But the real reason for high diesel prices is the popularity of buying things online. It takes a lot of diesel trucks to deliver all of those products to everyone's porch instead of having people take the products home from the stores in their own mostly gas vehicles.
I don't know, hard to say which way uses more diesel. I never go by Tractor Supply and any other store that amounts to any size that there's not a semi unloading freight for local buyers. Matter of fact I've still got a newspaper pic of one of Walmart's 53' footers minus the tractor that the good old WY wind blew over on its side in their far parking lot.

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All I can say is I'm glad I don't live out there anymore, when you raise the cost of fuel the price of everything goes's up and the little guy is always the loser in the end.

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