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Hey Hig/Tutt you got gas?


Gasoline shortages XXXXXXXXXX hit towns across the southeastern United States this week, sparking panic buying, long lines and high prices at stations from the small towns of northeast Alabama to Charlotte in the wake of Hurricanes Gustav and Ike.
In Atlanta, half of the gasoline XXXXXXXXXX stations were closed, according to AAA, which said the supply disruptions had taken place along two major petroleum product pipelines that have operated well below capacity since the hurricanes knocked offshore oil production and several refineries XXXX out of service along the Gulf of Mexico.

Just wondering.

XXXXXXXXXXXX = slight changes to article so as to be not a direct copy.

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you can copy paste the article on the forum if ya want.

our area to my knowlege is not in the shortage. i thought that was over.

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How is the gas and diesel in Atlanta and Birmingham for Hig/Tutt?

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Atlanta is a nightmare, around here the supply is good, regular around 3.69 and diesel 4.09, looking for it to go up this week since there will be several hundred thousand folks heading for Talladega to the race. The only time I saw a little shortage was the first day then everyone had gas. Our governor invoked the anti-gouging law so no one was allowed to go crazy with the prices. Two stations near me raised their price to 4.49 and were promptly cited by State Troopers and they lowered it to 3.99, now it is down to 3.69 as previously stated. Atlanta is a whole other problem. For what I understand from friends and colleagues who live there it is a mess. Then again 200,000 more folks live in metropolitan Atlanta than live in my entire state.
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I was just wondering why Boone Pickens doen't have some CNG service stations in that area. He would be making a killing now. What happened to the propane rigs so popular a few years ago?
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Atlanta is a nightmare, around here the supply is good, regular around 3.69 and diesel 4.09, looking for it to go up this week since there will be several hundred thousand folks heading for Talladega to the race. The only time I saw a little shortage was the first day then everyone had gas. Our governor invoked the anti-gouging law so no one was allowed to go crazy with the prices. Two stations near me raised their price to 4.49 and were promptly cited by State Troopers and they lowered it to 3.99, now it is down to 3.69 as previously stated. Atlanta is a whole other problem. For what I understand from friends and colleagues who live there it is a mess. Then again 200,000 more folks live in metropolitan Atlanta than live in my entire state.
Second question. When we has gas shortages in florida after hurricanes Frances, Jeanne, wilma we had gas shortage but diesel was just fine. Is that the case with your area? just wondering.

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What happened to the propane rigs so popular a few years ago?
Propane/butane powered pickups were popular from the 1950s through the 1980s because many farmers/ranchers had propane-powered farm tractors, and they could easily cheat and use untaxed "tractor gas" without much chance of getting caught as a tax evader. The city boys never did use propane, because they didn't have a convenient source of untaxed propane. And very few farmers bothered to convert their cars, because the propane tank took up the whole trunk. And besides, it was an expensive conversion.

But if you have to pay full retail price including road tax for propane, then it's not cost effective. Propane has about 25 percent less BTU per gallon than regular gasoline, so your "gas" mileage is a lot less with propane. And in most places, propane now costs about the same as gasoline.

But the main thing that killed propane as a pickup fuel was when diesel tractors replaced gasoline or propane tractors, and diesel-powered pickups replaced propane-fueled pickups. The farmers no longer had huge 1,000-gallon propane tanks from which they could conveniently fill up the pickup with untaxed propane.

Back in the 1950s and '60s, our pickups were dual fuel = butane and gasoline. Gasoline was about 30 cents per gallon and tractor gas butane was about 7 cents per gallon. So we used a lot of butane (propane) in our pickup. Because of the worse gas mileage, we rarely bought taxed propane when on the road, because the cost-per-mile was less on regular gas than on taxed propane. The pickup ran just fine on eigher fuel, but got a lot better MPG on gasoline.

Farmers and ranchers don't run the red tractor diesel in their pickups, because the revenooers look for pickups with red in the fuel tank, and the fine is very, very high when you get caught.

I still have a 500-gallon butane/propane tank I use to heat the house, and I fill up my old propane-powered Massey-Ferguson Model 50 tractor from that same tank. But I don't have a pickup that will burn propane now - just diesel.





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Second question. When we has gas shortages in florida after hurricanes Frances, Jeanne, wilma we had gas shortage but diesel was just fine. Is that the case with your area? just wondering.
Diesel stayed the same for the first week, then jumped to 4.49 and is now back to 4.09 and have seen some 3.99, however I could not get my rig to the pumps in those stations, but yes diesel prices were much more stable than gasoline during this situation.
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I traveled this weekend from NC to Macon GA. It was bad through Charlotte NC, Columbia SC and into Macon GA. I never had an issue but I would start looking for a place once I hit half a tank. I drove the gasser vs my 250, some what wish it would have been the diesel. Most places had diesel that had no gas. I saw many places in GA and SC 2 out of 5 stores had no gas.... very random as to who had it.

Even around me in Mebane NC a few of the big stations(Sheetz, Fuel City...) had nothing but diesel if anything.
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I have a Honda GX CNG. It is purpose-built as a CNG car, and is hence very efficient, because it has 12.5:1 compression, which takes full advantage of the 120 +/- octane rating of CNG. Converting a normal car to run on both gas & CNG is not only very expensive, but fails to run the CNG at optimal compression, resulting in much poorer power when switched to CNG. But NG certainly has a better infrastructure than Propane, and though fueling locations aren't everywhere, usually the NG is as near as your house, and home refueling is possible then.
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Atlanta is a nightmare, around here the supply is good, regular around 3.69 and diesel 4.09, looking for it to go up this week since there will be several hundred thousand folks heading for Talladega to the race. The only time I saw a little shortage was the first day then everyone had gas. Our governor invoked the anti-gouging law so no one was allowed to go crazy with the prices. Two stations near me raised their price to 4.49 and were promptly cited by State Troopers and they lowered it to 3.99, now it is down to 3.69 as previously stated. Atlanta is a whole other problem. For what I understand from friends and colleagues who live there it is a mess. Then again 200,000 more folks live in metropolitan Atlanta than live in my entire state.
Pretty much. No problems finding diesel in metro Atlanta though. I've seen the oily stuff for 3.89 - 4.39. It'll be a few more days for gassers. Still glad I have my 59 gallon Transfer Flow tank

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Diesel stayed the same for the first week, then jumped to 4.49 and is now back to 4.09 and have seen some 3.99, however I could not get my rig to the pumps in those stations, but yes diesel prices were much more stable than gasoline during this situation.
Diesel went up but it was easily available!!! No lines at all and no pumps out of fuel! John was driving 2 hours each way to get gasoline for his generators. 4 hours of driving to go get a few cans of gas????????? Not to efficient!

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