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Hi, need help hard starting gets worse when it's colder out
i have a 94 e-350 i assume i hate using that word lol but as it starting to get colder out its harder to start and when it starts smokes bad and smokes intermently until it comes off the cold cycle in the summer its not really bad its a non turbo so i think its the international motor .......... whats the best glow plugs to put in it ? and any tips thank you for reading ..
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Ohm your glow plugs at the valve cover connections. Do a voltage drop on glow plug relay.
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Ohm your glow plugs at the valve cover connections. Do a voltage drop on glow plug relay.
i have never done that before can you explain please ?
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Sure, disconnect harness at valve covers. Foreword and back pin is glow plugs. Set meter to read ohms. One lead to glow plug pin, the oth to ground. Look for .2-2.0 ohms.
Activate relay by jumping in the activator small wire. Read voltage on big posts- in and out
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Sure, disconnect harness at valve covers. Foreword and back pin is glow plugs. Set meter to read ohms. One lead to glow plug pin, the oth to ground. Look for .2-2.0 ohms.
Activate relay by jumping in the activator small wire. Read voltage on big posts- in and out
ty if the glow plugs are bad what kind is everyone using ? one person did suggest i could have a bad injector ??
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Nick in his first post he says that it is a 94 non turbo diesel which should mean that the engine is a IDI and not a Powerstroke. The glow plugs will be visible along with the injectors on the top of the engine.

Use on Motorcraft ZD-9 glow plugs on a 7.3 IDI engine.
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Nick in his first post he says that it is a 94 non turbo diesel which should mean that the engine is a IDI and not a Powerstroke. The glow plugs will be visible along with the injectors on the top of the engine.

Use on Motorcraft ZD-9 glow plugs on a 7.3 IDI engine.
YES THE THE GLOW PLUGS ARE ON TOP WITH THE INJECTORS APOLIGIZE FOR NOT STATING THAT ..
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This guy a has a lot of good tips on your engine...other than that post in the IDI forum......Ford diesel 6.9 7.3 IDI
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Nick in his first post he says that it is a 94 non turbo diesel which should mean that the engine is a IDI and not a Powerstroke. The glow plugs will be visible along with the injectors on the top of the engine.

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This guy a has a lot of good tips on your engine...other than that post in the IDI forum......Ford diesel 6.9 7.3 IDI
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thank you !!! now i got a shifting issue with the tranny ugggg keeps going in out of third gear betwwen 35 and 45 mph i already changed the the diff sensor grrrrrrr
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WEL I DID THE GLOW PLUGS SOLVED THAT ISSUE SCANNED THE VAN AND NO CODES UGGGGGGGGGG STILL HAVE THIS IN OUT ON THE TRANNY BETWEEN 35-45 MPH ANY IDEAS ????????????????
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This guy a has a lot of good tips on your engine...other than that post in the IDI forum......Ford diesel 6.9 7.3 IDI
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THANK YOU I DID CHECK THIS MORNING BEFORE I LEFT FOR WORK JUST TO MAKE SURE AND I DO HAVE REVERSE LIGHTS TOO ... SECONDARY QUESTION ONLY WHEN I START AND THE COLDER OUT THE WORSE THE SMOKE IS IT POURS SMOKE OUT OF THE EXHAUST WHEN FIRST START IN THE MORNING AFTER SHE GETS HEAT IN HER NO MORE SMOKE IS THAT A BAD IJECTOR OR ???? OH AND HERED THIER IS UPDATED NEUTRAL SAFTEY SWITCH TO FOR THE EO4D IS THAT TRUE ?
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My 6.9 idi blew white smoke until warm and under light acceleration. Put some fuel cleaner in it and clean the lines mine ended up being a clogged return line. I just rebuilt the injectors and put all new return lines on. Cant tell if it really fixed my problem though being as i just blew the turbo. Got a spare 7.3 idi going in this weekend.
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My 6.9 idi blew white smoke until warm and under light acceleration. Put some fuel cleaner in it and clean the lines mine ended up being a clogged return line. I just rebuilt the injectors and put all new return lines on. Cant tell if it really fixed my problem though being as i just blew the turbo. Got a spare 7.3 idi going in this weekend.
what kind of cleaner did you use ?
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Have you tried a simple fix such as this:
Name: Rob.
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