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Cool 2002 or 2015

Last year I sold my 2002 F350 7.3 that's in my signature in order to put a down payment on a house for my family... I bought the truck new in 2002 fresh off the showroom floor... Sold her with 186k miles... Well, I'm now in the market for another big rig and the opportunity might come about for me to buy my old rig back... She has 213k miles on her now with a few additional upgrades and still truckinů I'm caught between buying her back or pulling the trigger on a 2015 6.7... Just looking for some input on what YOU would do...

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I have a 2015 and love it.....bought it new....runs circles around the old 96 7.3 I use to own.
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I think the big question is possible payments with the 2015 or can you buy the 2002 outright and will the 2002 fit your needs?

I know that all of us would like a newer vehicle but the price of the is ridiculous

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I have a 2016 with the 6.7. We
Luv it. It just pulls. It is stock. More horses and torque than I need pulling our Eagle 5th wheeI. I can see no reason to change it.
Now that said the 7.3 was a reliable rig.
So far ours has had one limp mode incident. The DEF injector was clogged. Cleaned and reprogrammed the power module and no issues since.
Only downside on the crew cab 6.5 box truck is the fuel tank. 26 US Gallons. What where they thinking? I added an aux tank in the box that solved that issue.

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Honestly I never towed regularly with it, couple trips here and there but it seen little towing it's whole life... Prices for a new rig are downright insane, with payments anywhere from 650 upwards of 1200 per month... The new owner tows heavy with it almost every weekend and he loves it but wants to get a manual so he may sell it back to me... I'd have to take out a personal loan in order to buy it back but definitely smaller payments than the 2015...

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I have a 2016 with the 6.7. We
Luv it. It just pulls. It is stock. More horses and torque than I need pulling our Eagle 5th wheeI. I can see no reason to change it.
Now that said the 7.3 was a reliable rig.
So far ours has had one limp mode incident. The DEF injector was clogged. Cleaned and reprogrammed the power module and no issues since.
Only downside on the crew cab 6.5 box truck is the fuel tank. 26 US Gallons. What where they thinking? I added an aux tank in the box that solved that issue.

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That's another thing I wouldn't be used to, the DEF fluid... I've got zero idea what it actually does and how often it needs filled etc...

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That's another thing I wouldn't be used to, the DEF fluid... I've got zero idea what it actually does and how often it needs filled etc...
Roughly Def tank is 5 gallons. If truck is not working top it up once per oil change with def. No black smoke no burning eyes from diesel exhaust. No black on side of trailer from exhaust.
It's got a lot of engineering in it good and bad in my opinion. They inject def in the exhaust to get rid of the black soot and bring down the emissions of bad gases. There is a filter in the exhaust that collects the soot. The truck does a regen within about ever 500 miles or less. This regen injects raw fuel into the exhaust filter where it ignites and burns up the soot. Typical egr temp is 1100*f when doing a regen. There are 4 egr sensors on my truck.
Yeh that's hot. If hauling trailer the truck goes the full 500 plus miles between regen's because the truck is working hard enough to keep soot level burned up. If you lay on the right foot when empty you will get more regen activity... More soot created.
So on a trip from sw Ontario to Florida and back with trailer we where gone two months I added 5 gallons of Def fluid for the trip. Started with full Def tank. Added more when I got home.
So truck averages somewhere around 10 mpg us gallon when pulling trailer. Some days it's 11 others it's 10+. Headwind and hills 9 ish. Without trailer doing interstate to Florida round trip mid 18mpg running speed limit but not above.
Its a big heavy truck not a hybrid Prius!

No burning eyes and no soot is a win with the wife
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Owning the 6.7L is WAY too much hassle to drive it anywhere. Do not fall into the trap!! Truck starts every time, out drives me on long trips, seats are way to comfortable, hauls anything I can load in the bed, pulls anything loaded on the trailer hitch, people ogle the truck constantly to the point it's obnoxious, women feel the unnatural need to talk to me, I just can't go anywhere without people wanting to ask me questions about it....You get the picture.
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BigMike,

We use the new PSDs at work where somebody else foots the loan and the repairs. I have a couple of 2002s of my own.

The right answer depends on the individual and what your needs are.

If someone gave me a new truck, I would sell it and buy 3 really clean low mile 7.3’s.

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I would take the money still leftover and add heated seats and BlueTooth...Lol

Although I do admit the 7.3s don’t attract many women my way...unless they want help moving things.
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2002 F-250 4x4 CC SB 7.3 PSD w/4R100. 182,000 miles.
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2002 F-250 4x4 SC LB 7.3 PSD w/ZF-6. 177,000 miles.
NOS Black CPS. ScanGauge-II. Bilstein 5100. Stancor GPR. Walker BTM. Noco Mod. Michelin Defender LTX 285/75/16.

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2000 F-250 4x4 SC SB 7.3 PSD w/4R100. 164,000 miles.
NOS Black CPS. Rebuilt Fuel bowl w/gold spring, 6.0 Cooler, Walker BTM, Stancor GPR, Michelin LTX M&S2.

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I have the 7.3, and I'm planning to keep it. But if I were as rich as you are, I might go for the 6.7.

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Answer is 2002 or 2017. 2017+ has stronger roof strength in a rollover crash due to new federal law. If you spend a lot on a 2015, why not get the safer 2017 for a little more?
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