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Key fob

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I looked at previous posts about key fob issues, but just want to clarify.

In May I purchased the above truck. It had 2 factory key fobs, but I recently misplaced, maybe lost, one of them. I went to the dealer to get another but declined when I was told it was $180 plus $50 for programming.

Based on previous posts, if I don't have 2 factory fobs, I have to take an aftermarket to the dealer for programming. Is that still the case?

Also, if I buy aftermarket, suggestions on what/where to get it?

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The keys are part of the PATS system and there MUST be two keys programmed initially. If one of the originals are lost you cannot program an additional key without it. So yes, if you lost a key you will need to purchase a new key, have the currently programmed keys erased and two new keys programmed. There is no work around.

As for aftermarket keys, I am only going to warn you once. We have CONSTANT problems with aftermarket keys and fobs. Not all of them but they can be a problem so it's a crap shoot. My professional opinion based on experience: I recommend that you stay with the OEM keys... on several occasions I have seen people get pissed at us when the key the bought at Mr. Fong's Fob Emporium fails. W T F! I realize the keys are pricey but you are guaranteed that they will work and will be supported by Ford if something goes wrong. Have a problem with a key you buy on the Internet, you are on your own if there is a problem... and then you are out the cost of that key, a new key, diagnosis and programming.

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Ford_doctor has obviously more experience than some unknown retired wrench puller in the middle of Canada (me). However, I have bought several FOBs and a set of keys online with nary a problem. I never even bothered to check the local dealer so I don't know if I saved anything - I just know they worked. I used Forscan to program the new keys. It was one of my Towncars - I believe it was the '97 but it may have been the '01. As I recall I wiped out the entire record of the old keys and installed the new ones plus whatever I had of the old ones. Personally I think the online route is so cheap that you'd be silly not to try but that's kind of my life attitude in general and it doesn't always work for me. YMMV

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I did say it is a crap shoot. There are some mobile key services that come to you as an alternative. One reputable one that is in NJ I know of is https://carkeysexpress.com/ and I am sure there are others. Google is your friend here.


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Thanks guys. If I go the expensive route, I'll wrap it up and make it my wife's Christmas present.
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When I get a new vehicle or new to me vehicle, I always cut a spare key or two and program them with the 2 original keys. Once I am sure they will work, I put it away in my safe. A regular 80 bit key for the 2016 and older vehicles (128 bit keys for newer vehicles) that is not a fob key is cheap even at the local locksmith. This prevents the $50 programming of the PATS fee as a minimum.
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It is possible to do this with Forscan, but the risk is even greater in that if the key fails, you call a tow truck to take the truck to the dealer and wind up paying for it all over again. There are ways to test the key without cutting it or programming, but it is still a crap shoot. I am in the same boat, only one key came with the truck.

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The latest version of FORScan for a computer/laptop can program the keys. Many places will cut the key and not charge you anything.

Some places advertise that they can do "high tech keys". What they do is "copy" the signature of your key and then program the new "high tech key" with this info. This does NOT give you two keys. You still only have one key but two copies of it.

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I never knew Ford keys themselves were programmable.


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I never knew Ford keys themselves were programmable.

I was merely talking about the places that advertise that they do high tech keys. I have never had one done nor tried to have one done for a Ford but have for a Honda.

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