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PYRO PROBE install -my Ford Diesel tech said........

Dest place to monitor turbo temp is just on the outlet of the Turbo OR in the Y pipe just at the Turbo inlet.

He says the left exhaust manifold is THE WORST place to put one if you are concerned with accuracy. He cites that the Y pipe is best as it contains exhaust gas from both manifolds and is more accurate. Bty usin only one manifold you cannot account for variances in ignition, between the banks.

Mine is going in for a rear main seal(warranty on 04 F350) and he is going to install the probe in the Y pipe for me while the tranny is out.
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Re: PYRO PROBE install -my Ford Diesel tech said........

Search for this issue in upgrades and aftermarket 7.3 There are a LOT of posts full of info. I'm to tired of the subject to explain again. The other thread is just as relevant though, same points and concerns.








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Re: PYRO PROBE install -my Ford Diesel tech said........

While I also read lot's of post's on this subject before having my gauges installed, The most popular consensus on pyro probe location seemed to be in the exhaust manafold since we want to know the temp's coming OUT of the engine prior to entry into the turbo, NOT what the temp is AFTER exiting the turbo.....

I would also like to point out that I am by no means an expert on this subject whatsoever!!!
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If I learn otherwise, I'll regress and have my probe moved.

I guess this is still a "Hot Topic"
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Re: PYRO PROBE install -my Ford Diesel tech said........

I am new to the site, here at the recommendation of my brother. Just had a Pyro & Boost set installed today. My guy said the same thing, PRE turbo to get the best read.
I can't remember where the probe was mounted on my old peterbuilt..

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Re: PYRO PROBE install -my Ford Diesel tech said........

All depends on what it is you want to monitor. For most people the EGTs as they come out of the motor is what's most important. This is espically true if you're gonna chip the truck or if you tow (or both). For them the pre-turbo application is what's called for - t/c in the exh. manifold. If you want to monitor your turbo temp (for shut down temp. concerns) then post turbo is what you want - t/c in the down pipe. Obviously post turbo will not give you any accurate usable info for towing or chipping. That's why most of our customers buy the pre-turbo kits. About 96% of the pyros we sell are used in pre-turbo applications. If you're concerned about your turbo shut down temp. the best thing to do is watch your (pre-turbo) pyro before you shut down. Wait till she gets down to 325-350F and then swithc the key off. Exception Example: when your towing up a hill w/trailer en tow and pull off in a rest area. The pyro will tell you that the EGTs are cool a lot faster then the turbo cools down. This is due the the residual heat built up in the turbo due to the fact that it's a big honkin chunk of metal. I'd let the truck idle for at least 5 min before you shut down. Use common sence. If it's cold outside then you can shut down sooner. If it's hot then wait longer.
Now, here for my shameless plug. You can always add an ISSPRO Turbo Temp Monitor (TTM) that has a thermocouple in the down pipe. Then the truck will shut down at the right temp and you don't need to worry about anything. I've got one in my truck and love it. I really get a kick out of people's expressions when they see me walking away from my truck and they say, "hey - you left your truck running". I look at them and then the truck and back at them, and it shuts down a few seconds later. They just scratch their head.

If oyu have any questions don't hessitate to give me a call. Glad to help.

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Re: PYRO PROBE install -my Ford Diesel tech said........

Banks says to install theirs in the #5 manifold. I trust Gale Banks Engineering more than an ASE wrench monkey.
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Re: PYRO PROBE install -my Ford Diesel tech said........

Get an Bully dog outlook, and monitor Both! Not to gloat but I think this is the best idea yet after ALLLLLLL.....THE.....DEBATE.

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Re: PYRO PROBE install -my Ford Diesel tech said........

I feel pre turbo is the only way. But my next set up is going to either be right before the turbo, or one gauge for each manifold. I always wondered what is the right side was hotter than the left as i was running into the 1600 degree range. Just my 0.02

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Re: PYRO PROBE install -my Ford Diesel tech said........

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Banks says to install theirs in the #5 manifold. I trust Gale Banks Engineering more than an ASE wrench monkey.

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