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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old 07-23-2012, 10:42 PM Thread Starter
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Simple upgrades?

Hey as of today I am officially a diesel owner. I bought an 04 f-250 with a 6.0 and 66,000 milies. It is completly stock and I wanted to do some simple upgrades. I was thinking 4 inch turbo back exhaust and a cold air intake. I don't want to get too carried away if I can help it. Any advice on what to do and what brands to use would be greatly appreciated.


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I would put a coolant filter on it as well......dieselsite makes a good kit.

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I would put a coolant filter on it as well......dieselsite makes a good kit.
That would be the FIRST upgrade I would do, and after that some sort of way to monitor the engine coolant temp and engine oil temp to keep an eye for too big a spread between the two.

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X2 on the moniter.

You just have to see the temperature spread between ECT and EOT. In my case ignorance was bliss and that cost me $12000 for a newer short block. Do yourself a favour and get a moniter either an EDGE CS or CTS or any other mentioned on this site.
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You might consider first a set of gauges. That way you can monitor your current normal values and when you add any mods later you can gauge the difference (sorry, couldn't help the pun). If you tow, or plan on towing, the Trans Temp gauge is a must. Before you say it, yes I know you already have one, but the stock gauge is worthless. It will read in the normal range if you just let the truck idle in the driveway on a cold morning. There's also no numerals on it, and for good reason. I real gauge is good to have. We have some popular kits here if you're interested. If you have any questions about them let me know.
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For an intake the S&B is a good product for the price.
Exhaust, go with MBRP and you wont be dissatisfied.

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Congrats on the truck, and welcome!
1. Monitor!!! Now!! Edge CS or CTS or the Scangauge II is a cheaper option.
2. Coolant filter is an excellent suggestion. Has the coolant been flushed and maintained on this truck? There are several companies that sell bypass coolant filters (I have the dieselsite one) and more recently an increased flow coolant filter has been marketed by IPR Research. It's pricier but handles a higher rate of flow.
3. I have an MBRP turbo-back exhaust and it works great. '03 and early '04 trucks benefit from a turbo-back because the factory downpipe was crimped and wrinkled (not mandrel bent).
4. By and large I think aftermarket intakes are a complete waste of money on a 6.0. Cold air intake?? Aftermarket intakes suck air from the engine compartment. What's "cold" about that? And filtration on the stock air filter is unmatched.

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x2 on the Edge unit and keeping the stock air intake.

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Blue spring upgrade for your fuel pressure. if you are 4wd clean and repack your hubs. mine are currently locked in in the auto position.

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As posted the stock air intake is as good as they come spend your money on other things that count like a coolant filter, gauges I like the Edge CTS, fuel gauge under 45lbs at WOT kills injectors use only Ford or Racor filters and a good 5w40 Syn oil, your injectors will like it and change the oil around 5k because of the shear of the oil by the injectors. If your deltas look good ( ECT-EOT max spread 15*) do a coolant flush to ditch the Ford Gold junk coolant install a good Cat EC-1 Rated coolant and do alot of ing.
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So I am thinking of the Edge Insight CS, coolant filter, 4" turbo back exhaust anda blue spring upgrade? Im not sure if the blue spring is needed or not. Also if I do straight pipe exhaust will I have to get a chip to clear engine light codes? The diesel shop in town told me exhaust, chip and air intake would run about $4500. I laughed and left. Any advice on blue spring and exhaust I would appreciate.


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So I am thinking of the Edge Insight CS, coolant filter, 4" turbo back exhaust anda blue spring upgrade? Im not sure if the blue spring is needed or not. Also if I do straight pipe exhaust will I have to get a chip to clear engine light codes? The diesel shop in town told me exhaust, chip and air intake would run about $4500. I laughed and left. Any advice on blue spring and exhaust I would appreciate.


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Every 6.0 needs the fuel reg spring to keep from kill your injectors.
If you are going to do the exhaust do the turbo back and go from there and forget about the air intake these 6.0 have the best one going good to 500hp. You will need the SCT to turn off the wrench if you do a egr delete and go with the CTS it has a bigger screen.
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Every 6.0 needs the fuel reg spring to keep from kill your injectors.
If you are going to do the exhaust do the turbo back and go from there and forget about the air intake these 6.0 have the best one going good to 500hp. You will need the SCT to turn off the wrench if you do a egr delete and go with the CTS it has a bigger screen.
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Yes, do the blue spring upgrade - it's easy and cheap peace of mind. I don't think EGR delete will throw a code on an '04 - just '05+. If you delete EGR cooler there's a new one-piece job out by IPR, I think. One piece means fewer connections to spring a leak.
Might check to see if you have the butterfly valve in the intake elbow. If so you can take that nonsense out.

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JIM C, you are right by the time I started writing I forgot what year it was, need to fill in your Sig.
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Like I said i've never owned a diesel. Everyone says use synthetic oil. I have always used Delo 400 15W40. Is there anything wrong with this. Just curious if so and why.

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My advice... If your going straight pipe. Just remove the cat and muffler. Get either delete pipes and keep the 3.5" pipe. The extra .5" isn't going to make a much of a difference. Should set you back less that 150 bucks done if you do it. Toss in a sct programmer or gryphoon programmer with custom tunes and keep the stock intake. You will notice a huge power increase for the money spent. It will be the bigge bang for the buck you will get. Next huge gain will be in the form of a turbo and/ or injectors for 2 grand minimum + supporting mods.

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