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6.0L Power Stroke Engine and Drivetrain Discussion of the 6.0L Power Stroke diesel engine and drivetrain in the 2003-Up Super Duties and Excursions. No gas engine discussion allowed except on transmissions and drivetrain that pertain to all models. Please confine discussion of topics in this forum to those items that are specific to the 6.0L Power Stroke engine.

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I was driving around yesterday and I stopped at a store for 15 min and shut my truck off and came back out and fired it up and it kinda had a shutter and idle and driving to my house. Once I got home I shut the truck off and tried firing it back up and it would just crank and wouldnít run... it was running just fine all day. KOEO I have 12.25 battery volts, ICP 0psi, FICM ignition 12v, FICM internal volts 47.50, ICP duty cycle is .14...... now when I crank it over Iím getting 10.87 battery bolts (it was more but I was cranking a lot before I recorded my gauges), ICP 725 psi, FICM ignition it 11.50, FICM internal is 47-47.50, ICP dury cycle is .32.... if you guys could point me in the right direction that would be awesome Iím thinking FICM but not sure. Thanks again you guys are awesome
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It has to be leak tested to see if there is a high pressure oil system leak and also to be sure no oil filter collapse. If that is OK then HPOP is very suspect. I have had several HPOP on the 1st gen swashplate pump trucks (2003-2004 F, 2003-2005 Excursion) can be fine and then loose a pump piston and quickly fail to run again and being shut down.
Do you know if your HPOP has ever been changed or how long since it was changed?

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I donít think itís ever been changed but Iím not sure, I have good injector oil pressure though? Could it still be that?
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Getting cam/crank sync and FICM sync?
Cranking rpm's?
Cranking ICP volts?

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I have it on the charger right now to get more accurate numbers because they are all getting low. I think i can get all that info on my sct x4 tuner but not sure about cam/crank sync? What am kinda numbers and I looking for as far as rpm and ICP volts goes?
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Getting cam/crank sync and FICM sync?
Cranking rpm's?
Cranking ICP volts?

I have it on the charger right now to get more accurate numbers because they are all getting low. I think i can get all that info on my sct x4 tuner but not sure about cam/crank sync? What am kinda numbers and I looking for as far as rpm and ICP volts goes?
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Not sure if SCT will give you sync numbers (they all need to be at 1). The ICP volts should be around 1.2 volts, but must be AT LEAST 0.8 to give you the required minimumn of 500 psig.

I would highly recommend downloading the ForScan Lite program to your smart phone and getting an OBDII adapter (either WiFi or BlueTooth). I like the BAFX brand of adapter - they seem to work well.

ForScan can get all the parameters AND it is a very good code reader. The software is free unless you get the add-free version which can be around $10. The adapter is $30 to $35.

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[QUOTE=bismic;4658732]Not sure if SCT will give you sync numbers (they all need to be at 1). The ICP volts should be around 1.2 volts, but must be AT LEAST 0.8 to give you the required minimumn of 500 psig.

I would highly recommend downloading the ForScan Lite program to your smart phone and getting an OBDII adapter (either WiFi or BlueTooth). I like the BAFX brand of adapter - they seem to work well.

ForScan can get all the parameters AND it is a very good code reader. The software is free

I get 257 psi of injecor pressure when I unplug my ipr is that normal?
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Yes - because all you have closing it is a spring. The actuator fails to the open position (ie dumping oil to the crankcase) when it is unplugged.

Why would you want to unplug it?

Unplugging the ICP sensor is a valid test for trying to start, but not the IPR ...........

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Yes - because all you have closing it is a spring. The actuator fails to the open position (ie dumping oil to the crankcase) when it is unplugged.

Why would you want to unplug it?

Unplugging the ICP sensor is a valid test for trying to start, but not the IPR ...........
I have 0 RPM while cranking
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Zero rpm means that you aren't cranking. Cranking means that the crank shaft and cam shaft are being turned (at some rpm).

If you are actually hearing the engine turning over (rotating) w/ the starter, and you don't have an rpm reading, then you are likely to have an issue with the crankshaft sensor.

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Hmm Iíll have to check into that, that makes sense though! Iíll let you know how it goes, thanks again for your time much appreciated
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Zero rpm means that you aren't cranking. Cranking means that the crank shaft and cam shaft are being turned (at some rpm).

If you are actually hearing the engine turning over (rotating) w/ the starter, and you don't have an rpm reading, then you are likely to have an issue with the crankshaft sensor.
It shows 0 rpm on my guage cluster and 125-150 rpm on my sct scanner
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I found a rubber washer and and plastic castle style white washer jammed in the corner of my fuel bowl on top of my motor
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It shows 0 rpm on my guage cluster and 125-150 rpm on my sct scanner
That's better, at least the PCM is seeing the engine rotation. Sounds like an Instrument Cluster problem, not a crankshaft issue.

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