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6.0L Power Stroke Engine and Drivetrain Discussion of the 6.0L Power Stroke diesel engine and drivetrain in the 2003-Up Super Duties and Excursions. No gas engine discussion allowed except on transmissions and drivetrain that pertain to all models. Please confine discussion of topics in this forum to those items that are specific to the 6.0L Power Stroke engine.

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post #16 of 50 (permalink) Old 08-09-2018, 06:04 AM Thread Starter
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Should i do a distilled flush of the rest of the ford coolant before running to normal temp? Right now i still have it in there as i have been swamped with work. Also the person i bought the car from (which at this point isnt trust worthy) said he did an EGR delete but left the vavle in there so it didnt throw a code? Im not sure if that is a thing or not. He also said it was an 06 engine in there since he had to replace it.
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Yeah, I would get the system flushed first.

Could you ask the original owner what EGR delete was installed? Sometimes they weld freeze plugs on the ends and they rust out. If it is a full delete, then you may have head gasket issues developing.

Leaving the valve installed and connected is not an issue. That is common practice.

Did you get a new degas cap yet? If not, do so, and verify that the degas bottle sealing surface for the cap is smooth and even. If it isn't, sand it down to smooth and level w/ some fairly fine sandpaper.

You probably need to "tee" in a hose and add a pressure gauge at the vent line from the radiator to the degas bottle. Don't cut the hose, just disconnect and add a tee and a short piece of hose. The hose to the pressure gauge can be short or long. A long hose can allow you to run it under the hood and positioned by a windshield wiper so you can see it while driving.

I would pressure up the cooling system to 15 psi and see how long it holds. You may find a leak. If you can't find a leak and the EGR cooler has been removed, then I would say you are looking at head gasket leaks.

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@bismic i got off work a little early today and was able to get the scan guage to run the engine oil temp. the deltas between them stayed pretty constant the worst it got was a difference of 6 or 7 but then the coolant temp jumped up to match and this was with 2 extra gallons of water(obviously i didnt do a complete flush yet). also after letting it idle for 45 mins then driving it the oil temp wouldnt really go past 180... i thought normal temp was 190? After the drive i checked the degas bottle and no new leaks. so maybe it was the cap after all?
i bought shell rotella ELC NF coolant which i read online was cat ec-1 and when i picked up the order it didnt say on the bottle that it was. it says its cummins medium and heavy/detriot diesel/etc but didnt say cat rated. not sure if this is a good one to use to fill it back up tomorrow when i do the full flush. i dont have a cat store close by and they are closed on weekends.
this little test run made me feel better about the condition of the truck.
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Normal temps are 192 to 198 or so. Sounds like your thermostat may be getting "weak". Still, it looks good for the oil cooler.

I don't recall all the EC-1 rated coolants that are available, but there are plenty of posts on it. I thought Shell (Rotella) had one that was available at most places.

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@bismic sorry to keep bothering you. So you know at first how the coolant looked good? Well i kept flushing it and im about 16 gallons deep and its this color.... the delta was 13 at one point but the leveled out at 8-10... Im not sure what oil in the coolant looks like but is this it?
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That's not oil.
Oil would settle out with some time.
That just looks rusty.

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When I did my flush, after the initial flush with a hose while the truck was running for 30 minutes, I filled it with distilled water every morning, drove it to work and back and opened the radiator drain with the nose pointed downhill at night. I did that for a week before converting

If I were you I would keep flushing until it is almost clear. You are only about half way there at 16 gallons. The system holds 7 I believe.

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+1 on both posts above!

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Go to Harbor Freight and get the long ball end metric hex bit set. You will get it clean and begin to get the old residue out much faster if you remove those block drains. The one by front end of starter is the tough one but the long bits make it go way better.

you can get those tools other places but for a lot more money and you may not have any other use for them but this.

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Go to Harbor Freight and get the long ball end metric hex bit set. You will get it clean and begin to get the old residue out much faster if you remove those block drains. The one by front end of starter is the tough one but the long bits make it go way better.

you can get those tools other places but for a lot more money and you may not have any other use for them but this.
+1 on this. I replaced the block drains with fumoto valves and a section of clear tubing to each valve to allow the coolant to easily drain and not drip on the starter, etc. Then, I joined both sections of tubing at the bottom into a T fitting. It works very well.
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Thank you @bismic, @dillon134, @jimmy, @Ford06, @79jasper. I will be doing the block drain today.
I drained what i could and drove on the highway and the deltas were at a constat 11-13 degree range. Is that bad? I know the 15 degree threshold is. This was also with water. im not sure if that effects the deltas or not.
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it seems to be getting dirtier the more distilled water i put in it.... also i noticed that the degas cap is leaking agin when i drove it at highway speeds. could this be because its not pressurized and there is a leak in it? I am going to buy a new bottle and install it today.
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Are you still running a cleaner? Or this is just the flush stage?

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When you let that sit, does any of it layer out?

What kind of smell does it have?

I don't like running completely up to temperature with only water. You get more rust formation that way.

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And the waterpump is not getting the benefite of the lubricant in the coolant.


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