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Crank no start no smoke

Need help I have a 2001 f350 7.3 l with 250k it died a few weeks ago wouldn't restart seen oil in the valley so I replaced the hpop the ipr and icp as well as lpop and the idm box and CPS I have fuel in fuel bowl and the wts light on dash but still no start no smoke.
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Open your fuel bowl drain valve, turn key to on an make sure fuel blasts out of there at a good rate. Do you have a 1/4 tank or less. Fuel pressure number should be 55-65psi. That's a lot of parts to toss at an oil leak. was probably just the HP lines, which is common. I suspect you have too little fuel pressure. Good reason not to smoke.

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Absolute was being kind about how many parts you changed. I think you've won the prize for changing out unnecessary parts. Hope your wallet is surviving.

The WTS light has absolutely no affect on the engine starting. But maybe you should have changed the taillight bulbs, too.

You should have just tracked down the actual source of the oil leak.
I would recommend that you just take it to a shop that has a PowerStroke capable Scan tool.

Have them set it up to monitor Engine RPM, ICP, IPR Duty Cycle, Battery Voltage, and Fuel Injector Pulse width.
You need to see the following while cranking:
RPM - at least 100
ICP - at least 500 psi
IPR Duty Cycle - probably no more than 35%
Battery Voltage - at least 9V
Fuel Injector Pulse Width - 1-6 mSec

That test will tell you what to look at.


In the future, you really should post your issue here, and get advice on what to fix instead of throwing parts at it. We will not steer you wrong.

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The reason I changed the oil pumps was because I seen less than 400 psi on hpop and lpop was not sealing and I replaced the idm because it was heavily corroded and I could hear water inside and when I open drain valve on fuel bowl it sprays oil like no other and the shops in my area want 2000 to just run diagnostics
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The hp oil lines weren't the source of the leak and the only reason I mentioned the wts light was ensure that the pcm is actually working aka recieving power
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... the shops in my area want 2000 to just run diagnostics
Holy CRAP!! I don't even think a Ford dealer here would charge that much. That's nuts. Takes about 30 minutes, and should cost less than $100.

The HPOP putting out only 400 psi probably wasn't the pump. They rarely fail, and are too expensive to just swap them out with out confirming that they have failed. It doesn't take much of a HP oil leak to drop the pressure to a no-start. Broken injector o-rings is a common cause.

What's your location. Maybe there's a TDS member who could help you out. If you were in the Anchorage AK area, I'd be willing to do that for you.

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Everything expensive here Ford dealership wanted almost 300 dollars for ipr valve
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Yeah most Ford dealers don't do walk-in customers any favors. You can buy online for lots cheaper, even considering shipping. Try https://parts.autonationfordwhitebearlake.com/ They sell at a discount and used to be a sponsor here. Good guys, although their web catalog is getting worse. They will take phone orders also, and are willing to help you find what you need.

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