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Denso starter upgrade

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Well after 20 years and about 5 of the Mitsubishi starters I went with the Denso. My local starter shop talked me into it. $250.00 for a brand new starter. A new Mits was $200.00 This thing is big. Just barely fit in there, but install went well with a few mods. Had to snip the little leg off of the large cable bolt on connector and loosen the clamp on the large cable at the front of the engine to get a little more length. Easy squeeze.

So far so good. Starts faster than it ever has. The guys at the starter shop says it will be the last starter I will put on my truck. We'll see.
Took a few pics of old and new. I should have taken one side by side, but I was more focused on a proper install than I was taking pics.
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It looks like a Denso clone. A real Denso is usually $450 and has a green Denso sticker on it. Did the shop show you the packing box?


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I was looking for the green sticker as well.


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No green sticker. No stampings. I did not see the box. This was from a very reputable local shop that has been around forever. Also said it was new not reman.
Boy, who can ya trust??

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Even the knock off ones work fairly well and do spin the engine over faster. I have used them in the past and got good use out of them. Although On my 99 with an automatic I am not using cheap ones, if it don't crank over you are dead in the water, no pull starting.
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On the Denso website, it lists two different starters for the 7.3L Powerstroke engine, the 228000-8420, and the 280-8008.

Find My Part | DENSO Heavy Duty

The 228000-8420 is available from DENSOProducts.com, a full-line DENSO distributor, for $367.70. It states that Denso 228000-8420 has been replaced by Denso TG228000-8420.

https://www.densoproducts.com/product.aspx?zpid=44526

The Denso TG228000-8420 Heavy Duty New Starter is available from DENSOProducts.com for $279.44.

https://www.densoproducts.com/product.aspx?zpid=40284

The remanufactured 280-8008 is available from DENSOProducts for $234.58

https://www.densoproducts.com/product.aspx?zpid=15344

The remanufactured 280-8008 is available from RockAuto.com for $175.99

https://www.rockauto.com/en/parts/de...ter+motor,4152

The new 280-8008 is available from ebay for $220.10

https://www.ebay.com/itm/DENSO-280-8...0AAOSwa~JbLL5E


If you want one verified to have the green made in Japan sticker, then this is the only one that I have been able to find, a used 228000-8420 on ebay for $239.95


https://www.ebay.com/itm/Denso-12V-S...4AAOSw8PpdXTfn

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It would be helpful if your posts provided a bit more research...Lol

Only kidding.

This is a great post.

With nearly 190,000 on both my trucks, I think I will need to make these purchases soon.


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I got mine at Larrys, it was 500.00. Has the green sticker but this was maybe 5-7 years ago,

LarryB's New 22800-8420 Denso Super Starter for 94-03 Ford PowerStroke - Ford LarryB's

You can only use 2 bolts on these, you skip the 3rd. And you snip the tab on the lug.
Run a new 3/0 or 4/0 cable to the starter and double it up. It starts so quick.

Happy I spent the extra coin, such a quality build.

And I installed one of these,




Keeps one battery from draining so when you start the truck one battery is always 100%

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