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'99 & up 7.3L Power Stroke Engine and Drivetrain Discussion of the '99 & up 7.3L Power Stroke diesel engine and drivetrain in the 1999-Up Super Duty trucks and Excursions. No gas engine discussion allowed except on transmissions and drivetrain that pertain to all models. Please confine discussion of topics in this forum to those items that are specific to the 7.3L Power Stroke engine.

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If you mean the shift tower, that takes anaerobic gasket maker.
I'm pretty sure this stuff meets Ford's spec.

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Yep, that is what I ordered. I used a post you made back in 2007 to see what the Ford Spec was and then cross referenced it to Permatex and Anaerobic gasket maker is the correct product. You guys have all been very helpful. I have other stuff going and I am not a master mechanic. I am taking my time and she should be back up and running this weekend.

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Lol, I am not sure I will ever finish this. The only thing left is the shift boot and top of transmission. I have the anaerobic gasket maker. But, the directions call for Permatex surface prep and activator. I ordered it and it will be here on Sunday. Ugh. BTW, anybody know the proper torque for the rear u-joint bolts? Thanks again guys.

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BTW, anybody know the proper torque for the rear u-joint bolts? Thanks again guys.
The bolts on the t-case output flange are 76 ft-lb. The smaller strap type u-joints get 26 ft-lb.

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Thank you to everyone. The truck is back on the road. It seems to shift fine and behaving well. However, there is clearly more noise now with the truck in neutral and idling with foot off the clutch. This noise improves greatly when I push the clutch in and even better when I then put it in gear. I am wondering if the style of throwout bearing is making more noise. What I took out had a plastic body and the new one is all metal. Thoughts?

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It's probably the new clutch disk being stiffer than the old one (different springs in the center). The ZF6 is known for making a lot of noise, because of the mass of the gears and the torsional vibration of the diesel. It's called gear rollover noise. A much softer clutch disk center reduces it.

With the tranny in neutral, the counter gear is rattling around, being driven by the engine. With the clutch disengaged, it's not seeing the torsional vibration although there may be some movement of the counter gear, and with it in gear, the gears in the tranny are completly stopped.

Try idling around a parking lot in 1st gear. You'll probably get people looking at you like they expect something to fall off the truck. Mine is fairly noisy. It's just the nature of the beast.

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This is different than the classic ZF rattling in 1st gear. That I a very familiar with since 2001. The odd thing is that this morning I started it up and worked the clutch in and out and it sounded factory new. When I went for a short test drive yesterday, it sounded perfect. But, after a longer drive, this rotational noise in neutral started. It is gone this morning. But, I did not go for a drive. So, it is odd. The old T/O bearing had grime around it and did not just pop out of the arm, it took a little torqueing and wiggling. The new one dropped right in and it is metal. That is why I am wondering if that is what it is. All I now know is that it is intermittent.

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Maybe just put your earplugs in and wait till it "wears in".

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Sounds like you might have a broken pressure plate spring or a very weak one.
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